Batman vs Ironman, Who would win – A detailed analysis?

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Ironman vs Batman
So, there is an Ironman movie and a Batman movie coming out at about the same this summer. Both movies will be fighting it out for the top spot this summer. THis got me thinking: who would win in a fight between Batman and Ironman. After much thought and carefull analysis, the winner is clear: Batman. (Honestly, Batman kicks everybody’s ass! )

Now, before all of you hardcore fans start writing me hate-mail, I know that they are in two different universes. Batman is in the DC universe and Ironman is in the Marvel universe. Who cares! I just want to see them fight. So here is an article on who wins, based of course on a detailed analysis of many factors..

Money:
Batman: As Bruce Wayne, Batman owns Wayne Enterprises. Wayne Enterprises is a major private technology firm that makes billions in profits. Did I mention that Bruce Wayne has a butler?
Ironman: As Tony Stark, Ironman owns Stark Enterprises. Stark Enterprises makes weapons and sells them to people. Starks Enterprise is a struggling company that is public. He doesn’t even have a butler.
Winner: Batman. Tony Stark is the shareholders’ bitch. Bruce Wayne answers to no one. Batman is like Goolge. Ironman is like Lycos or AltaVista. In fact, Wayne Enterprises could buy Starks Enterprises without even causing a dent in Bruce Wayne’s pocket.

Origins:
Batman: as a child, Bruce Wayne watches his parents gunned down in a hail of bullets by a madman. In front of him!! Filled with rage and anger, he turns to bats and learns martial arts. He then proceeds to kick everybody’s ass! Good or Evil, he doesn’t care. Batman will kick your ass!
Ironman: Tony starks is a nerd that inherits his dad’s company. While in a warzone, He gets himself captured by the enemy and is almost killed. He then builds a suit to help him kick the ass of his captors. And he doesn’t even build the suit by himself….
Winner: Batman! rage and anger turning a human into a bat is too cool to ignore.

Equipments:
Batman: You name it, batman has invented it. He’s got hundreds of Batsuits and Batmobiles. Hell, he even has his own Iron Batsuit which is probably better than Ironman’s. Plus he’s got a kickass utility belt.
Ironman: As Iron Man, Tony Stark possesses a powered armor that gives him superhuman strength and durability, flight, and an array of weapons. Stark has developed several specialized Ironman suits for space travel, deep-sea diving, stealth and other situations.
Winner: Batman. He’s got the utility belt..

Lifestyle:
Batman: Bruce Wayne is a billionaire playboy. Evry girl wants to be with him and every guy wants to be him.
Ironman: Tony Stark is an alcoholic.
Winner: Bruce Wayne. He could steal your girlfriend. And you wouldn’t even be mad. You would be so happy that Bruce Wayne chose your girlfriend.

Intelligence:
Batman: Unlike the other superheroes, Batman uses his intellect, detective skills, science and technology to defeat his enemies. Rather than simply outfighting his opponents, Batman often uses cunning and planning to outwit them. Batman is physically at the peak of human ability in dozens of areas, notably martial arts, acrobatics, strength, and escape artistry. Intellectually, he is just as peerless.
Ironman: Ironman is a walking tank that pulverizes everything in his path.
Winner: Batman. Alhough a walking tank is really cool, being the peak of human ability is better…

Costume:
Batman: He’s got a friggin Bat on his chest!
Ironman: He’s got a friggin laser cannon on his chest.
Winner: They are both winners. We should combine both costumes to form a bat-shaped laser cannon.

Other Cool Factors:
Batman: He’s got the Bat-signal. When the cops need help, they call Batman
Ironman: There is no Iron-signal
Winner: Batman and the Bat-signal.

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Posted by Brian Ellis on April 7th, 2010 at 3:54 am

I looked at this analysis and say its a bunch of crap. Who ever did this added in all of this extra stuff, like childhood, and love intrest. This is about who would win in a fight. Now, while Batman has a cool suit, and utility belt, batman is limited to fighting ground force. Ironman can fight ground, armor, and air. Batman stayed in one city to help people, and focused on that city alone. Ironman on the other hand is focusing on the world. Batman can basically only glid, while ironman can fly the speed of sound. Even if Batman brought out his little fighter like in the older ones, he would still have a tough time against ironman. Ironman managed to evade missiles, and many other things from fighter plans. Batman uses his fist in battle mainly. He has no guns, only gas. Ironman’s suit has missles, enhanced strength, and that palm pulse beam. If you want to add money to this, then keep in mind that Stark enerprises made weapon s for years, and Tony Stark pattened many of those weapons, so whatever the US government build, or buys that was his design, they must pay stark. Ironman wins, hands down.

Posted by Ross Palmer on April 8th, 2010 at 10:58 am

You’re right Brian it’s only about the fighting, not lifestyle or what colour pants they wear….

But i don’t think Ironman would win as easy as you think. If the fight was indoors then Batman stands the best chance. But if it was outside (like all good fights should be) then you have to say Ironman would probably win…. unless Batman could get up close.

Posted by ddkfj on May 8th, 2010 at 5:51 pm

Batman would win because he actually does have batsuits that are equivalent or even better than Ironman’s. And yes Batman would use it because he KNOWS the capabilities of Ironman’s suit, so Batman’s Ironsuit vs Stark’s Ironsuit…well, Batman is always prepared, so he’d make even more mods for his batsuit, then take his mastery in martial arts into consideration vs an alcoholic, and Batman wins the day.

Posted by ronald on June 19th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

irons mans suit have been stolen before. we all saw this in ironman 2. he walked into this dudes lab and stole that shit. if he could believe u me so could bats. tony does not always wear his suits. let bats catch him outta his dumbass suit. bats owns suits that are just as good as his tonys so im really not gonna count that suit as an advantage. id say intellectually they are on the same level, personally i think batmans smarter but i cant underestimate iron man, so this leaves the physical. bats beat captain america in hand to hand combat, captain america is a fuckin super soldier who is also at the peak of human ability. without his suit tonys not gonna do any real damage. and even with his suit, i see bats just e.m.ping he ass and rendering his suit useless.

Posted by Spaz on July 7th, 2010 at 3:15 pm

ronald………
great analogy of the situation. I have been trying to explain this to my stark fanatic friends for some time not.

Posted by Spaz on July 7th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

I ment NOW not NOT at the end

Posted by bonslywizard on July 29th, 2010 at 7:30 pm

Iron Man = Billionaire alcaholic
Batman = Billionaire ass-kicking machine.
Without his suit, Iron Man is nothing. One EMP is enough to kill him. Besides, Batman has his own robotic suit…PLUS his everyday toys.

No question.

Batman wins!

Posted by Marvel>DC on July 29th, 2010 at 11:30 pm

1.Why would Batman steal from Tony stark?That means he is not smart enough to make his own s***

2.Sence when did Batman who’s only consern is Gotham and only Gotham know about someone who isn’t even in the same company as him?

3.Iron Man would DESTROY BATMAN(except in movies cause TheDark Knight did Waaay Better then Iron Man or Iron 2)

4.How often does Batman use his other suits? Most of the time he is in his regular suit.(And Iron Man has suits also has other suits defeat people like THE HULK or THOR so if Batman can change his suits so can Iron Man).

5.I.)ron Man would kill him. One uni beam and he is fried.

6.One crutile factor for Batman is TIME.He needs time to prepare.He need to leave and come back to defeat someone. Where as Iron Man only needs time sometimes to beat someone. IRON MAN WOULD DESTROY BATMAN.

7.Batman has open areas in his mask leaving him vulnerable to bullet fire(Iron Man doesn’t)

8Captain America has nothing to do with this(even though he could beat Batman’s a** too.)

9.Iron Man and War Machine>Batman,Robin, and BatGirl even with the Batmobile.

Posted by Dylan on July 30th, 2010 at 8:20 pm

Dude in the video game Marvel Ultimate aliance 2 Captain America had an electric disruptor and put it on Iron Man’s hand and then smacked him in the head with his shield. If Cap can get one so can Batman.

Posted by Zach on August 1st, 2010 at 2:31 pm

With all the research that Tony Stark has done do you honestly think that he hasn’t thought of a way to block an EMP? Come on now.

Batman fans always say, “Well, if there was a 2nd fight Batman would have had a chance to research IronMan and figure out his weakness.”

THERE WOULDN’T BE A SECOND FIGHT, BATMAN WOULD BE DEAD.

Posted by Marvel>DC on August 13th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

Um Dylan? Electricity doesn’t work on Iron Man. We all saw Iron Man 2 and Whiplash’s electric whips didn’t work on Iron man.

Posted by Hizkia on October 14th, 2010 at 10:28 pm

ups i’ve been left much. i’ve just read this shit. hahaha.
yes. maybe the analysis was true. but i didn’t see much things about fight and and match between them. you just shown what they have. yes, but it’s not details. if i may add more analysis for requests, the purpose between them, the people who loves them, i think Ironman can be easily loved by ordinary people, coz they don’t have to think about the complexity of Bruce. or i don’t know. as a man who think, i choose Batman, i adore him since i was a kid. i hate iron man. but from this analysis, i’ve got so many things that make me upset to batman, or to the anaysis maker actuslly? hahaha. but anyway, if the main topic is about fighting, please give detail about how they fight. i don’t know and i don’t care, though i keep choosing Batman. and one more, i’m applouse to ironman in order i’ve just known that his purpose is for all of the world. it’s a bigger purpose than what Batman does. he just doing everything for himself. shit. i hate to know this. but Batman is still the best and my hero! Anyway, for the analysis maker, i feel dissapointed to you! you make me as a Batman lover down by your analysis. Marvel>DC’s Analysis is so simple and very good. Yeah, I disssapointed coz Batman lost. anyway. i still have one thing that u should know, Batman didn’t kill joker as Joker wants, cos 1, batman wants joker to become a good man. 2, He doesn’t want people know him as a killer. Batman is wise, altough Tony Stark is having a greater purpose. and ffor all of you, u’re all have been Punk’d! hahahaha! kidding Bro. Love u all, love this web!

Posted by THE REAL PRO on October 15th, 2010 at 10:51 pm

Batman vs Ironman, Who would win – A detailed serious analysis?

{{{{{MONEY}}}} (net worth) IRON MAN -Anthony Edward Stark owner of Stark Industries(S.I.A),a multi-billion dollar corporation owned and run by businessman Anthony Edward stark.it is also a a major military contracting company.holds 45 % of US stocks.as weapons manufacture it has access to every resources eg. platinum,depleted uranium etc.

bat man -(Bruce Wayne)-Batman owns Wayne Enterprises. Wayne Enterprises is a major private technology firm that makes billions in profits but manufactured for marketing are unknown.mostly for his own use.

{{ORIGINS}} IRON MAN-Anthony Edward Stark visionary,genius,american patriot,son of legendary Howard stark.

bat man-origins not properly explained as bat mans cast changes overtime.Michael Keaton or Bruce Wayne?

{{Equipments}}-IRON MAN-as a major military contracting company and has access to every resources,
result arc reactor powered exoskeleton allows tony Stark possesses a powerful and heavy armor(capable of resistance to Depleted Uranium tank shells) that gives him superhuman strength and durability, flight, and an array of weapons. Stark has developed several specialized Ironman suits for deep-sea diving, stealth and all other situations.has smokeless lesser beams.it also has state of the art artificial intelligence in the house,in suit,in workstation,in mobile,

bat man-uses the old classic style Batsuit which is with utility belt and with no power supply,weak armor,the armor is easly basaltic penetrable and so as DOGS!use of less fire arms mostly blades.use of old 1963 m134 mini gun and old grande.

{{Lifestyle}}- tony stark is a billionaire playboy. Every girl wants to be with him and every guy wants to be him.
besides going out of playmates,repoters,models,he went on with 12 maxim cover girls (most cover girls does not show full frontal nudity)has a database profile of most hottest babes.lives in state of the art house and his work station inside his house.drivers high tech and luxury cars,owns star industries high tech aircraft.open,friendly and easy going to everyone.does not disguise his real identity even iron man suit…he had sex with women he meet.had sex on screen.

batman- Bruce Wayne shows off a billionaire playboy as roles with 2 to 4 models as his girl friend Rachel Dawes has more interest in relationship with Harvey Dent!!! rolls in a custom hammer(designed by Lucius Fox) and a Lamborghini. disguises his true identity with simple mask.not easy going with everyone and voice tone is not clear.difficult to understand.never had sex on screen.

{{{Intelligence}}}-TONY STARK- at age 4 built his first circuit board,at age 6 his first engine,at age 17 he graduated summa cum laude from N.I.T and at age 23 the one and only iron man suite.his own artificial intelligence super computer and robots etc.create new weapons of mass destructions on his own talent.

Bruce Wayne-he went to china to become a material art master and studied the bats lifestyle.no further records exist and thanks to his company one and only chief engineer, designer,manager Lucius Fox he did not had make any thing at his own.Lucius Fox had it made for him.

{{Costume}}-TONY STARK-state of the art extreme armored high density titanium and iron suit power by a unique arc reactor capable of generating 3 gigajoules per second.suit can fly,dive with extreme power.its can hit the speed of sound.

batman-old classic bat suit non resistance to bullets,blades,dogs,fire,electricity ,water.can not fly continuous .
{{{Other Cool Factors}}}-tony stark his mark 1.2.3.4 iron man suits his lg mobiles.he successfully privatize world peace and protecting America and its interest around the globe.and the DVD and blueray was released with in 2 months.

batman-his fake manipulated Nokia 5800(bat man series) and his friend JOKER(R.I.P) and the blue ray was released after 1 year 2 months 9 days.stays only in ghotham city and went twice to china.once with Koren smugglers old plane..

WINER-clearly IRON MAN.by the real pro who purchase movies online and rates and enjoys himself.does not rate movies with out watching them not dependent on IMDb ratings.peace.

Posted by Black Suave on October 30th, 2010 at 10:36 pm

Iron Man wins, in a landslide.

As much as I like Batman, there’s just no way he stands a chance vs Iron Man. Everyone talks about his gadgets and utility belt. What does he have on that belt means anything besides a few bataarangs and a grappler? A couple smoke grenades so he can disappear mysteriously? A laser pointer, maybe? Can opener? The Bat suit itself is armored, but it can’t stop direct bullet shots or a well placed knife shot. Nothing in that suit matches the Iron Man suit, which is basically a walking weapon. Missiles, flares, bullets…and if that wasn’t enough, he’s got repulsors on both hands, and the GALLAGHER chest piece. Stark’s suit makes him stronger. He’d toss Batman all over the place. I’m not sure Batman could even move Iron Man. What happens when Batman runs out of bataarangs? Lemme guess, he’s going to use some kind of electrical, power zapping device? Gimme a break. Batman’s going to have to add to his arsenal to even THINK about challenging Stark.

Iron Man can fly. Batman, who’s supposedly smarter than Stark, couldn’t even figure out how to do this. Stark figured out how to fly IN A CAVE…WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!! Once he got home, he perffected it. Batman, at best, can only glide to the ground. All the talk about Bruce’s brainpower. That’s detective based and riddle solving, which is a necessary skill set when dealing with goons like the Joker and Riddler, who are basically the same, except one is slightly saner. Neither has any physically threatening strength. They simply try to outwit Batman and make him fall into some silly trap. Stark is an engineer…a weapons expert. Batman wouldn’t lay a hand on him unless he jumped Stark in his sleep.

Money’s irrelevant when they’re both billionaires. Stark seems to enjoy his life more, while Bruce holds a grudge against the world and doesn’t even try to be sociable, even with the rest of the JL.

The world knows Tony Stark is Iron Man, so going out in public and being himself is nothing but a thing. What happens to Gotham if a roided up villain wants to tear apart downtown in broad daylight, while Bruce is in the middle of a meeting?

The only measurable advantage Bats would have against Stark would be hand to hand, no suit martial arts.

Posted by Aaron Ellis on November 3rd, 2010 at 3:02 pm

This analysis is completely biased and wrong. Let me get this straight:
Money: yes they both are billionares, but the butler thing doesnt even apply. Batman has alfred, and tony stark has a human jarvis (which in some cases is the butler for the avengers) and a computerized jarvis, like in the movies. Iron Man obviously wins this one.

Equipments: you claim batman has more equipment because he has the utility belt… but the Iron Man suit is a utility belt. the entire suit is better that the belt.

Lifestyle: they are both billionare playboys on the same level, tony stark possibly being better. yes he is an alcholic, however he stops once the Iron man gig becomes important.

Intelligence: There is no doubt in my mind that tony stark is on a complete higher level of intelligence than bruce wayne… nuff said

Costume: the laser cannon rapes bat…. you are straight up retarded if you think otherwise

Posted by 'Luke on November 11th, 2010 at 12:57 pm

Whoever thinks that Ironman is better than Batman are dumb!!!
I knew that an alcoholic can beat up a 7 year karate master?
BATMAN NUMBER 1!

Posted by Black Suave on November 11th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

Hello, Luke.
I aren’t dumb…lol. Look, I like Batman, but he’s better suited to fight unenhanced henchmen and street punks with no special weapons, powers, or abilities. In a prepared battle or even an impromptu event, I don’t think he has enough to beat Iron Man.

He can’t punch him. Iron Man got hit by a tank round. All it did was knock him out of the sky (why Jarvis didn’t detect it is a mystery). Even though it’s made of titanium alloy, the suit still probably weighs a few hundred pounds, especially fully loaded. At best, it would probably take a well placed dropkick or a rope swing from Bats to take him off his feet. Batman would have to upgrade into some armored suit to have a chance, and if he did that he’d most likely have to sacrifice things like agility and reflexes. The only way to make up for that would be to have some kind of artificial power in his suit. He’s going to need some more offense, too. I can’t see the Batarangs doing much damage, if any.

Unless you know something about Batman that I don’t know, I just don’t see how he can win.

Posted by EX-GOOGLER on November 23rd, 2010 at 6:31 pm

MONEY

batman-Bruce Wayne is broke.so he went to Gotham city mob bank and robbed with joker.joker and batman shared 50%-50% but Harvey Dent and Joker were screwing batman,s girl friend Rachel (Harvey fucked her pussy and joker used the dirty asshole) so sad batman got drunk and burnt 50% of jokers share.

ORIGINS-Batman was a Bastard immigrant fuck from china who was adopted by Gotham cities poor mob family. Bruce Wayne fucked his step sister got her pregnant and got caught by mob family so he whacked him step sister and parents as seen on superhero movie..

EQUIPMENTS-he got a utility belt full of batshit.his weapons are batshit filed condoms and kitchen knives AND WEED,METH, ALCOHOL, COCAINE, HEROIN which helps him to see scary faces and let him think he is a bat.

LIFESTYLE-Bruce Wayne is an alcoholic.he is male porn star.he is hero sexual and homo sexual.here is the proof Batman.XXX.A.Porn.Parody tpb.he is a cracked head,heroin and other drugs addict.since he is an alcoholic so he CRASHED his rented Lamborghini and was arrested by cops as shown on dark knight.he the 5 th kind vampire gay pornstar.

INTELLIGENCE-since he was a bastard he did not even passed K.G.and he did not knew that bats eat where they shit.

Costume-cat womens stolen suit.

Other Cool Factors-since he was 5 th kind so he did not get any visa from china.so he went to china with Koren heroin smugglers plain as shown on dark knight.

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Posted by Leo on December 5th, 2010 at 3:06 am

Batman buys Stark Industries, uses Tony’s suit against him.

Alternatively, there’s always the chance of deactivating it with EMP, of course remotely manipulated. Stark wouldn’t get close enough to be attacked by a grenade. If assisted by The Oracle, they could try to hack the suit. Being connected to the net is a real problem here.

Last thing Batman would try is a direct confrontation, all in all. He doesn’t have time to start his own suit research either, because he wouldn’t top what Stark has already designed. Of course, Tony has an ego three times the size of Gotham, so he would probably be overconfident in this fight. Big mistake.

Posted by vin99 on December 11th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

just to let you people know how is tony stark smarter the bruce wayne when tony only made a A.I. And that suit, batman design the JLA base in the moon with holding cells for beings like doomsday. And yes batman does have a suit similar to ironmans one which he used once when he was working with the JLA, and no he doesn’t jst work in gotham because he’s helped a lot of other super heroes like superman, the flash, captain marvel, green lantern, martian man hunter save the planet and sometimes the galaxy from bad guys. If ur still not convinced here’s a simple solution- ironman vs superman = superman pummeles ironman. Batman has veaten superman twice so ur own logic will tell you batman will most likely own ironman. If you don’t believe me read ur comics and you’ll see.

Posted by Black Suave on December 13th, 2010 at 8:46 am

Riiiight. These ‘Batman over Superman’ victories are hollow, phoney, and no doubt Kryptonite based. If Supes woke up and said “Enough of this nonsense!” and decided to beat the brakes off Batman, he could. It’s just a matter of how bad he wanted to beat him, be it literally breathing on him with freeze breath, throwing him a few thousand feet (or further), or carving his logo in Batman’s chest with his laser vision. Look, the comics write cheap Batman ‘victories’ over Supes to elevate his rather pedestrian stature. Truth be told, it’s nothing more than PIS (plot induced stupidity). Supes can fly under the Batcave, lift it off the ground, chuck it into space, and make another moon out of it (with Batman in it. Alfred, too).

Seriously, I like Batman. But come on. His wins over anybody usually requires a lot of ‘assistance’ from the writers (again, PIS) as an excuse to tame the heroes with superhuman attributes. If they all decided to ‘take the gloves off’ vs Batman the fight would be over quickly. Batman’s wit would only last so long before superior strength, weaponry, and other superhuman abilities set in and doom him.

Now, back to Iron Man vs Batman. If Iron Man had any intergalactic foes, why wouldn’t he build a space based headquarters (one that will no doubt be armed to the teeth)? Right now there’s no need for him to be in space. Well, at least not in Hollywood movie terms. I don’t follow the comics much, so I can’t say one way or the other on who he’s fighting in space. But the guy did build an Artificial Intelligence system that basically runs his house with limitless power (no electricity bills. Imagine that). That and tons of other gadgets, like a virtual keyboard (all over his house), handheld devices that can commandeer other devices in seconds, stuff he probably came up with because he was bored. Stark would have J.A.R.V.I.S. scan and analyze the Batcave, with all of Batman’s suits and gadgets in it, determining his weaknesses and whatnot.

If Batman is so smart, why doesn’t he see the need for individual flight? Almost all of his compadres can fly. Oh, and it comes in handy when you’re….I dunno, falling from somewhere. Or maybe you need to get somewhere in a hurry or just want to go on a stroll to clear your mind. Iron Man could grab Batman, fly up a few hundred feet and drop him. Fight over. Lol.

Posted by hizkia on December 20th, 2010 at 1:09 pm

owh it’s gonna be more suck! just sack the Brce wayne’s ass! no. i want poison ivy.. yummy

Posted by krish on December 29th, 2010 at 9:08 am

i think the batmans weapons cannot even harm iron man as he withstands powerful missiles.so ironman wins the game.

Posted by Anmol Deep on March 8th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

Tony Stark is way too smart for batman……

Posted by MARVEL>DC on May 11th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

Okay this is a fight, not a popularity contest or who is better or about how they live their life or anything else. The Batman fans are clouding their better judgement do to their favortism towards Batman. How is Tony Stark being an alcoholic relavent to the fight? That will not affect the fight. And I personally think Batman is a big wuss. Super Man lost his people due to a planet explosion and you don’t here him crying about it…(but Batman is still a cool hero).

Posted by Tomdelonge182 on May 22nd, 2011 at 7:16 pm

What about the suit batman used in the dark knight returns when he destroyed superman , almost killing him.

Posted by Shank on July 11th, 2011 at 4:45 pm

Well, since everyone keep saying Ironman smarter than batman cause he can fly or built his suit. We break this down; how many majors did ironman master ? 2 – 3 tops and all is for inventing. How many majors did batman master ? I’m sure it more than 3; physic, chemistry, psychology, archaeology, detective skill, martial art, and many others . So at least they are at the same level of intelligent. And batman intelligent is focus on fighting, everything is for winning against crime, while ironman intelligent is to invent things.

Now why did batman does not use his robot suit ? or flying ? or deflect bullet……. . Gotham city has all types of hardcore criminal working underneath, to back alley etc…. these environment if he use a suit similar to ironman it would cause mass damage to the city and flying suit is useless cause it’s freaking nosy, like telling them you’re coming to get them. Another point is no criminal fear ironman; cause they all know that’s just a dude in a can suit, batman suit allow him to strike fear into criminal create a mystical tale about him, if he use the type of suit similar to ironman, able to fly with rocket and take down criminal with guns etc…. they will not fear him, they will realize that it’s a normal human in a suit. As you can see that he does have other mean to fly not just with his suit, and in the future when the world used to batman, he did create a flying suit – batman beyond -.

Now about technology; please people, you compare a technology and idea base on 1930 technology with the 1980 ? Do you know what those gangster in batman series use for machine gun ? tommy gun ; while in ironman they have higher technologies. If you want to compare technology compare the one of batman beyond with ironman they’re at least at the same times.

Last ironman suit; ironman did everything he could think of to protect his suit; but it’s till just a suit and technology, it will be hacked, EMP – there are many way to use EMP not just throw it there and wait for miracle to happen -, even melt or rust, unleast it made from the same material as wolverine skeletons which it’s not therefore these are the weakness of ironman whether batman can use them to his advantage or not i dont know.

p/s: another reason batman does not use hightech in fighting is those weapon kill people, and batman will never kill, while mister Tony stark here is very comfortable with killling.

Posted by craig christ on July 19th, 2011 at 12:38 am

Ok um bats built the jla space station and funds all the justice league…. he built telaporters and also bats has been in a few fights with superman with a full suit like iron mans also the reason bats doesnt have an extreme arsenal is because he has no need to kill anyone… bats is smarter richer and trust me DC’s JLA would kick all of marvels ass hands down shoot just the greenlantern corps. would make marvels heros look like bitches….. one last thing black panther kicked the avengers ass single handedly bats could do the same

Posted by fuku on August 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

AFUCK THE MOVIES LOOK UP THE COMIC BOOK VERSION HEROES AND BTW IF BATMAN COULD BEAT CAP. AMERICA AND SUPERMAN AND A SHIT TON OF OTHER HEROES THEN HE CAN BEAT IRONMAN.

Posted by MARVEL>DC on August 19th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

Criminalogy and detective skills won’t help you if your a** is blasted to the sky,
this is going nowhere the only true way to tell is if its a surprise or not in a way. What I mean by that is if Batman has any information about Iron Man before he fighting or if he can escape use what he learned in battle he can win. But if it’s unexpected Iron man can just fly over 150 mph and punch him in the face and boom he’s dead. Also if it’s just their “average” fighting costume then definitely Iron Man. And this is just between Iron Man and Batman that’s it. Seriously this like two diffrent levels of strengh and ability.

Posted by TopKing on August 25th, 2011 at 10:49 am

I agree with everyone who said there were too many people noting all the other things these two have, and then comparing them. This is a fight, not a contest for who can pull more girls (even though, they are relatively equal in that department). If it came down to it, Batman would eventually find a way to win. Like others have said before me, he’s always prepared. And no, Iron Man has not yet invented a suit that counters EMP’s. Cap fooled him, so can Batman. Iron Man knows basic MMA style fighting while Batman knows advanced martial arts. He also knows a wide range of other things that can come into play during the fight. Batman is an escape artist, therefore, he can escape the match and develop something to disable Iron Man’s suit, take the mask off, and pound his face in, and vice-versa. But in reality, if this fight were to really happen, no one would know what would happen, because all of these posts are biased. People tell you who THEY want to win. Plain and simple.

Posted by Black Suave on August 25th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

Batman over Captain America? LMAO. Impossible. Capt America is basically a righteous, properly dosed, fighting for justice version of Bane, only his is permanent, and Bane has beaten the shht out of Batman before.

Again, I like Batman, but these ‘victories’ he has over other heroes are only done to go against the grain, fool the readers with a great upset. All his wins over others requires some dumbing down of the opponent, which is BS. Dumbing down the good opponent is unfair to them, because they have to use smarts on occasion to best villains.

Bats cannot beat Superman unless he’s literally wearing a suit made out of Kryptonite. Even then, Supes would have to be taken by surprise. 500 feet away the Kryptonite won’t do anything to him, but from that distance he can hurl a truck, throw a missile, charge at him with some kind of protective suit or whatever and win the fight.

Anyone who’s picking Batman is just an underdog fan and isn’t looking at this with any rationale.

Posted by TopKing on August 30th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

@ Black Suave
You do realize that this fight is between Batman and Iron Man, right?

Posted by Shank on September 5th, 2011 at 2:15 pm

@ Black Suave
Nop sorry Capt is just peak human strength; he is not has superhuman strength as Bane; He is more like a version of Batman without a genius brain. So Bat can take him down normally. And to harm superman bat does not need that much of Kryptonite, just a hand full will do; and it can be safely store inside his belt.

There are 2 advantage for Bat to win any fight against his opponent;

1st His abilities are acquired through hardship training and as a normal human he has better sense of danger and survival than others. For example Iron can not worry about bullets or rocket throwing at him, his guard is weaker compare to Bat due to he thinks that his suit will protect him.

2nd Brain power; It’s not like other superheros are stupid but they don’t depend on their brain to safe the day; they rely on their power; their suits, how many times you see that Iron man or Capt able to deduce anything to solve crime ? This is how other superheros do; rely on powers and suits first then brain later; This is how Bat does; rely on brain first then equipments. Knowing your enemy you will win.

Posted by Black Suave on September 5th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

Dude, that’s a load of cr*p!! Capt on a bad day is twice as strong as Batman, has freakish endurance, doesn’t fatigue easily, and ages slower.

I’m so sick of this babying for Batman because he doesn’t have super powers. Well, tough shht. Blame his unimaginative writers. He’s a strong human with deep pockets and above average intellect. Dude, I don’t care how smart you are, nothing in his batcave, on his utility belt, or in his so called superior mind is going to stop Supes from flying at mach 2 right into his chest…if he WANTED to do that. (which he wouldn’t because he’s not built like that), or tunneling under Batman’s feet and pushing him 500 feet into the air and watching him fall to Earth, among other things.

Captain America’s stamina is miles greater than Batman’s. What would be the point of being injected with serum if all it did was bring you up ‘average strong person’ strength instead of something BEYOND what a normal human would have? That’d be like roiding Avg Joe up to the point where he could bench a whopping, monstrous…300 pounnnnds! Yaaaaaay! He could achieve that simply by working out and eating better. Big whoop!

Capt is AT THE PEAK OF HUMAN PHYSICAL CAPABILITIES. We’re not just talking bench pressing in the gym, but ALL human physical enhancement. Strength, speed, stamina, agility, RECOVERY, greater pain threshold. Batman isn’t at the peak of human limits. He’s just a dude that’s pretty strong and fairly smart, and has a belt with a few gadgets in it. In a street fight (with no intent to kill) Capt would leave Batman laid out cold.

Superman was the be all end all of superheroes…until too many teeny boppers started writing comics and created other heroes and villains who are nothing but the equivalent of aftermarket spinoffs of the Man of Steel. No way Supes loses to a ‘above avg human’, unless Batman jumps him in his sleep. There’s just NO WAY. Him beating Supes is nothing but PIS (plot induced stupidity).

Again, I like Bats, but come on. He can’t beat Supes, Capt, Green Lantern, or Iron Man without some serious dumb down involved. These guys fight villains using some intellect, so it’s pretty insulting to have them all of a sudden turn into re.tar.ds simply because they’re fighting another friendly.

Posted by Shank on September 6th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

@ Black Suave
Do you understand what is a fight condition ? It’s mean they both do not know who the others guy is; their place. With these condition you cant just punch someone on the street. First knowing your enemy, so how can Superman find out about batman ? using his x ray vision scan all gotham city hoping he is lucky enough to see bat cave; by the way X ray can be blocked so good luck superman. In the other hand batman can find out who is superman is, his weakness, his personal life. Result all superman know is batman is a mythical creature through those criminals, while batman know all about him. Proceed to fight, now if Bat want to kill Sup it’s pretty simple as you said ; and i remind you it’s a fight we dont need fair fight; If he want to fight fair just add krypto to his equipments. I would love to see Sup using his superhuman abilities now.

Now about Capt, you assume that using a serum will make him strong as superhuman he was not able to bend steel; the serum purpose is to make him to a perfect human at some point. I will give you an example, strength require muscle; however muscle increase weight, weight reducing agility speed, so this will tell you if he as strong as Bane he will not as fast as Bane. And Bat is at peak human abilities too through training please check the info. So Capt could be stronger than Bat but he not as strong as Bane to create problem, You cant call a person able to master all subject in DC universe, able to create serum for Joker gas is fairly smart. In a fight as i said again these guys are unable to dig up anything about Bat so the fight always in Bat edge.

Again as i said these guys using intellect after their superpower fail them, and their intellect is not usually use in deception, tactician, traps. And in a fight there is no such thing as friend; they dont know each others. So how can these guys able to use their superpower or weapons against Bats if they did not know where or who he is ? While Bats master of detective and deducing reasoning could able to find out about them. For example:
+ against Sup; as you said he ram to Bat at mach 2 speed but Bat throw a Kryp out; Sups stagger and ram himself into the ground and that it for him.
+Capt, common he is not Superhuman he cant knock out Bats in a few strike and cant over speed Bats; he still be effected by sleeping gas; posion gas etc…. do i need to list out all his weakness that Bat can use
+Iron man; a suit can be melt; can be destroy; can be emp; can be hacked etc……

You assume they know who bat is and to make first attack due to they’re friend hero, but in a fight they dont know each other, why Hero want to fight each others.

Posted by TopKing on September 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am

OMG! You both have the worst grammar! But Shank, I agree with you. In a fight, these two probably won’t know each other. Secondly, even if they did, Batman would be able to predict their next move based merely off his observations of them. His detective skills allow him to predict his opponent’s next move. A Batman versus Captain America fight would last a long time, given that they have both been fighting a fairly long time. And their strength is also equal, given Batman is at the peak of human ability, and the super soldier serum is already supposed to do that. Black Suave, if Cap was so superhuman, he wouldn’t need a shield do block bullets; he would be the Incredible Hulk strong or something like that. Shank, about your analysis on the whole, extra weight equals slower person, that’s not entirely true. Look at the Hulk. He can run pretty fast for a 10ft green monster. You’ve seen the movies and probably played the games, you can’t deny it.

In a fight against Iron Man, all it takes is some simple technological battle and some wits to stop Iron Man. Remember, Iron Man is only smart to the extent of his field of study. He doesn’t have dtective skills, or all the other mental skills Batman has. Batman is always prepared, so given that Batman already has something to knock out Iron Man’s power, Iron Man is done, temporarily. The only upside for Iron Man is that he has repulser technology. His father developed technology that no one has every created for themselves besides Whiplashes father and Whiplash himself.

In a fight against Superman, Batman would probably have to disorient Superman for the time being in order for him to develop something to stop Superman. Also, depending on whether people want it to happen or not, Batman may or may not discover Superman can’t see through lead, OR that he has a weakness to magic and kryptonite. If these come into play, Superman is done for unless he fights with his protection suit on, then Batman may not have as great a chance at winning as his other fights.

Posted by Black Suave on September 10th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

More ‘let’s find a way to give poor lil’ ol’ Batman the advantage over clearly superior beings’ rhetoric. Look here, guys. Bats is just an AVERAGE GUY IN A COSTUME, who happens to have a lot of money. All this undermining of other superheroes (and even some villains) just to suit Batman is a crock of shht. This is beyond silly, even by comic book standards. Next thing you know, you clowns will have Bats beating Zeus and even Jesus Himself.

Posted by Shank on September 11th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

@Black Suave
You’re just a sore loser since you cant give out any real reason these super hero can win; you said that you like Batman but you have no idea what his real power to be a super hero along side with superman is. He is not iron man; he is not just an inventor in side suit or having special equip to do the job for him; there is not for no reason that they call him the world -DC- best detective and the most intelligent man on earth, he has wide knowledge in every subject of DC universe and use them to his advantage; he is skill in interrogation; deception and escape; all of these skill require him to use his brain; i dont see other super hero using these skill. Iron man is just a brilliant inventor; without his invention his suit he cant do anything, he cant help or save anyone.

@TopKing
Uhm there is a different between Hulk and Capt; Hulk is genetic change; his muscle and cells are not the same as normal human therefore the law does not apply to him. While Capt still just a regular human; a perfect one as they said; but his cells muscles are still human, therefore the laws still apply to him. About muscle and speed this sure depend on what your aim is; for example the sprinter ; they’re focus on their legs; while others muscle are useless, the weight lifter; though they have a lot of muscle but they cant out run the sprinter because half of his muscles are useless in running and only weight him down.

Posted by TopKing on September 12th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

@Shank
Thanks, I never thought about that. And you’re right about Batman being the world’s greatest detective in the DC universe, but only to a certain point. Technically, there isn’t really a great detective in the Marvel Universe, but of course Marvels plots don’t call for one as their superheroes and problems stem from mainly genetic mutations and obvious deaths and etc. And yes, Iron Man is just a guy in a suit, but without it, he isn’t worth talking about.

@Black Suave
Dude, Captain America was given a serum to push his limits to make him the perfect human being, while on the other hand, Batman trained so hard that he is at peak human ability; in other words, he the perfect human as well. I personally am a Marvel Universe fan all the way, and, though I do enjoy the big reboot DC is trying to attempt, I have to go with Batman, as he is one of my favorite superheroes. Batman can take both Iron Man AND Captain America.

Posted by Black Suave on September 14th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

Whatever, dude. I’m done with this. All this Batman support is nothing more than a ‘normal human’ self-protection mechanism. You all are giving Batman these phoney, hollow victories as a way of saying we ‘regular’ people somehow have a chance against enhanced or superpowered beings if we’re great detectives and can figure out a way to exploit their weaknesses. Well, they, these superpowered or specially enhanced beings can exploit our weaknesses as well. We’re frail, fragile, and typically have a low tolerance for pain (due to millions of nerve endings). It really wouldn’t take much to beat most of us. Batman’s tolerance for pain is COMPARABLE TO THAT OF THE OTHER 6 BILLION OF US. I’m sure he could take a few punches with the best of any barfight brawler, but after a while getting hit by a superhuman is going to take its toll, and much quicker than from getting hit by a regular joe.

Capt’s tolerance for pain IS GREATER than that of Batman. So is his RECOVERY TIME. If Batman slugged him the jaw, for instance, the effect would be gone in seconds, due to GREATER PAIN THRESHOLD and QUICKER RECOVERY time. Now when he hits Batman, Bats’ jaw is going to be sore for days, due to Capt’s greater STRENGTH, but also GREATER PAIN THRESHOLD while delivering the punch. The pain threshold and punching power works together. Think about it. If I punched two different types of walls, for example, an iron one and a styrofoam one, I’m going to pull my punch into the iron wall, because I know the limitations of my pain threshold, and I don’t want to break my fist. Now, the styrofoam wall, I’m going to lay into it and light it up. The THRESHOLD factor is not going to matter, unless the styrofoam is several feet thick (I’d use my brain and inquire about that beforehand).

If a Kryptonian was here on Earth, for example, he/she’d know that WE know his/her weakness is a chunk of Kryptonite, and wouldn’t come within 20 feet of anyone whom he/she suspected had a chunk. He or she would be smart enough to fight from a distance, probably using super breath and throwing large objects. Superman has beaten supervillians like Darkseid and Mongul, both of whom has some degree of brains, yet loses to someone like Batman? Come on, now.

Iron Man would use the same self preservation intelligence. Stark has a portable suit, so he’d be ready at all times. J.A.R.V.I.S. would scan Batman and make an assessment of all his abilities and vulnerabilities, and would counteract his actions.

You all try to make it sound like these other guys are just walking dummies like Grundy, and ONLY BATMAN has a thought process. And just because someone is smarter doesn’t mean that’s going to enable to win a battle. You think a 120lb nerd genius can beat a world champion strongman simply because he’s smarter? It still takes practical application to overcome physical limitations. The nerd could start out winning because he had a couple ‘trick plays’ up his sleeve, but the second there’s a miscalculation of ANY kind, brawn is more likely to take over. This even applies to ‘superdetectives’ like Batman.

I’m smarter than a bear. I could be armed with repellant, a powerful gun, and any other ‘bear defeating’ gadgets, but the second I miss or it gets too close, fight’s over. Also, it’d be worse if the bear was aware an could formulate some degree of strategy. These guys would have to be total morons to lose to Batman.

Posted by Shank on September 15th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

@Black Suave:
Since it’s impossible to explain to you will give you the example you gave me:
“I’m smarter than a bear. I could be armed with repellant, a powerful gun, and any other ‘bear defeating’ gadgets, but the second I miss or it gets too close, fight’s over. Also, it’d be worse if the bear was aware and could formulate some degree of strategy” This is an example of iron man; a men without any knowledge of combat and strategy. “A soldier with just a hand gun or a knife could kill a bear” this is an example of batman. Now do you understand the different between these 2. A nerd with a gun cant best a soldier.

All your example is so unreal. If these so call super hero un able to know who batman is; how can they avoid him ? Yay Sup will stay in his fortress and be come a closet nerd; Iron man will become a drunk yard in his house.

Now about Capt; you have no knowledge of human and combat; those who train in combat can increase their endurance against pain; and recovery these thing can be archived by training; it’s call adapt to environment. If a boxer punch you and punch another boxer with the same force; who will have more pain; answer you, who need more time to recover ? you and does the other boxer need any serum like Capt. Please think before you post; cause showing off without anything to back up is just plain embarrassment . Un- least they stage clear the serum gave Capt super power like wolverine; he is just a perfect human; he cant get over limit of human and just be as Bat.

You’re mistaken Batman with Ironman, Ironman is a nerd in tech just as you said; he cant use his brain in anything but to build stuff, if you want to think think of him as Newtons or Einstein. Batman is a genus not only in knowledge but also in combat, think of him as Napoleon. You want to put Bat in a disavantage by set up a fight where you gave out every info about these fighter, sure only then these so call hero can kill bat with the help of others finding info about Bat for them. Without these info these guys is as good as dead to Bat. While Bat does not need anyone help to get to these Heroes .

Posted by TopKing on September 20th, 2011 at 10:45 am

@Shank
I thank you for that very detailed and almost perfect explanation of the whole situation. But, let me add this in to the pot: Batman is still human. Though I do admit, Batman is an even match against ANY superhero/villain he goes against (maybe except Magneto because Batman has a lead-lined mask and last I checked, lead was a metal, therefore Magneto could just crush Batmans head in), but given Superman can hear from very far distances, and can see very far distances, I would assume he can just use his powers to kill Bats right away. And before you say, “Batman will already have the info he needs to stop Superman,” no, he won’t. The reason why is assuming that these fights are all first contact. Therefore, they don’t know each other exists until they meet each other.

@Black Suave
*sigh* you just don’t understand. Batman is superior to both Captain America AND Iron Man, regardless of my explanation above. Cap is just a human that has been pushed from his very weak status, to a very perfect human. Batman pushed himself to that perfection, therefore they are even in strength. As far as battle tactics, Batman is trained in nearly all known fighting styles, and can wield nearly all known weapons. Caps retarded shield is nothing, regardless of if it’s vibranium or whatever. In hand to hand combat, shields are useless, and a cowards tactic; we all know neither of these two are cowards. As far as
Iron Man and Batman go, forget.

Posted by Shank on September 22nd, 2011 at 6:40 am

@TopKing
I dont know; how far can Sup able to see ? if it is far enough for him to see Bat at the time the mission is given out – we consider it at the Gotham Police station – then he could kill Bat right away; if not or if the mission is sent to computer then Sup has very little chance to discover Bat before Bat does. Well it’s depend on the story i guess.

Posted by Tombstone on September 29th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

Love Batman,he is extremely focused on the task at hand,he is a perfect strategist and is in top physical condition,he does have powerful weapons at his disposal,strong enough to take out Iron Man??Not so sure,Iron Man suit makes him pretty much invulnerable to anything Batman could try,I am pretty sure Iron Man would have the advantage.But I could be wrong!!

Posted by TopKing on October 4th, 2011 at 10:18 am

@Tombstone
Sorry to be so negative about your comment, but you ARE wrong. Think about this: Batman fights enemies without a titanium alloy suit and is just all natural. Iron Man isn’t very strong without his suit; therefore, he’s worthless. Until he can do what Batman can do, call me.

Posted by Aaron on October 4th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

I jusr want to say one thing. We are talking about Batman fighting Iron Man, not Batman fighting Tony Stark.

Posted by Shank on October 5th, 2011 at 8:41 am

@Aaron
Ahh this is where you’re all wrong; you guys look at the equipments; the gadgets; the powers. But you dont look at the man/woman behind all this. No matter who he/she is; alien, human, mutant,……. If he/she does not have will to do it, all of this is useless. And Batman has a lot of will.

Posted by Aaron on October 5th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

Ohhhhh im sorry i didnt know we were talking about Hal Jordan, the Green Lantern Corps, and the importance of willpower to use a power ring.

Posted by Shank on October 5th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

This is why talking to nerds is hard; cause they only know what fed into their mind but cant understand that comic or story need to base on real life science. You need will power to do everything in this world not just to use the ring; but how much is depend on the task; and how much will power you have s depend on your training or your life. I love to see how much will power a drunk yard like Iron man has. A nerd like you even sitting in a tank wont dare to set food in the battle; but a soldier with just 1 gun will run in front line without fear. Hope you understand now nerd.

Posted by Aaron/nerd on October 5th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

I just dont understand what willpower has to do with this. Yeah i understand the batman has the will to be batman and go through all the training and hard work and long hours to do it, and he has a good reason to do it. But Tony stark also has a reason to be iron man. he had the will to create the first iron man suit and mini arc reactor in order save his life. he had enough willpower to go through the grueling process of creating suit after suit. He had enough willpower to stop drinking so he could focus on being a prominent member of SHIELD, the Avengers, and focus on saving the the GODDAM WORLD!!! not just 1 american city. so im pretty sure he has enough willpower to not just bend over and take it from batman. And what does me sitting in a tank correspond with any of this?

BTDUBS… Im a nerd, and im proud to be one

Posted by Clarence on October 6th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

First off you are all fuckin retarded. Who are you to say who is a nerd when you are all wasting your life arguing about fictional characters when you can be out applying yourself in the real world. First off, Shank, learn how to spell you dickless sack of shit. I cant understand what the hell you are even trying to say. Second, quit idoling ficitional characters, wasting your time on pointless forums, and get laid. Im sure my dick has 10x more super powers than you will ever have in your life. My friend Aaron is not a nerd because i know he has a life outside all this super hero shit so dont call him a nerd. For the record, iron man will rape anyones shit. Dont venture unsolicited opinions and save yourself the embarrassing discovery of their exact value to your listener.

Posted by Shank on October 6th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

Now where should i start.

@Aaron : You dont need much will to create something; what you need is the imagination; and to me sitting comfort at home create suit after suit doesn’t need that much will at all. How much will it is for a drunk yard to quit drinking ?; and Bat designed and programmed the watch tower; saving the world many times with just body and will without the protecting suit like ironman. So compare will power Iron man is just a child to Bat.
Now if you dont understand it i have to explain it to you. You’re similar to iron man and nerd without any training or will sitting in a tank; And the soldier is Bats.

@Clarence: Is it a good thing to get laid ? it is called making love. “Love” it is suppose to be doing with the person you truly love and will spend the rest of your life with, not some one night stand or some testing life. So able to get laid many times before you get married is a good thing ? well to a hoe may be; but to every self respected man and woman, not so much. Well he declared himself that ? are you two really friend ? Anyway; everyone has a life outside here; what make you think that your so call friend is the only one ? It’s seem to me that my opinion has a lot of value to you, seeing how you’re going frenzy here. Well i can deny that give an intellectual opinion to an idiot would be a waste since they only able to understand so much.

p/s: and your record is idiotic ; i love to see iron man tries to rape superman or the hulk or wolverine

Posted by Clarence on October 6th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

Those who have forsaken reason cannot be conquered by it. I hope someday you will be able to make “love” to wonder woman, im sure thats what you want super freak.

P.s. Im engaged.

Posted by Aaron/nerd on October 6th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

Dear Mr. Shank,
Batman suit is protective. Not as much as Iron Mans, but its still protective. Im pretty sure that Brucie would go fight crime wearing just his underoos and without any protection
Yeah Batman created and designed the watchtower… whats that supposed to mean?
How much will is it for a drunk yard (what does that even mean) to quit drinking? Obviously if Tony Stark is an alcoholic (which means he is addicted to alcohol), it takes a lot of will to break an addiction
If you have imagination, you can come up with ideas. You need will in order to follow through with those ideas. The result of those ideas wont magically pop up out of nowhere after you imagine them.
batman has saved the world many times, but not by himself. he employed the help of the justice league. From a day to day basis (or should I say night to night?), Batmans sole purpose is to improve Gotham City. Iron Man misson, on the other hand, is to improve the entire planet, not just one city. I would also like to add that he does this on his own, and sometimes with the help of the Avengers.
And if you are going to have me sitting in a tank, at least give the tank all its props. My nerdy self and I will be sitting in a “tank” without, according to you, any training or will. You forgot to add that the “tank” fits perfectly around my body and moves as fluidly as my body itself. It is powered by a mini arc reactor, and incorporates repulsor technology, and has been outfitted with pulse bolts (extremely powerful plasma discharges which grow in strength as they seek their target), sonic generators, explosive shell projectiles, mini-missiles, magnetic field generators and a laser torch. It can also generate an electric charge to dispel attackers. The armor grant the user superhuman strength (lifting 100 tons at maximum power). Its Jet boots enable flight at Mach 8; he can also hover utilizing a localized gravity field. The armor’s internal air supply lasts more than one hour and can be sealed for travel through low oxygen, underwater or outer space environments. The armor also features a chronometer, radar, sonar, a magnometer, an atom-force microscope, photon, heat, motion and other sensor instruments. The armor contains a subspace/satellite radio communications array which receives local radio and video signals; the armor can also jam transmissions. The chest plate features the unibeam, a powerful searchlight that can project beams in virtually every light spectrum (visible, infrared and ultraviolet); it also features a laser beam projector, an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) generator which can shut down electronic devices within a 50-yard radius, a scanning device that travels along energy waves emitted from the unibeam and a holographic generator. It also has a personal deflector shield. So while I am standing in this “tank”, Bats is running at me with his oh-so-powerful Batsuit and special utility belt. I think i will stand a pretty good chance in the “tank.”
If Batman has so much will, why did the Green Lantern Power Ring pick Hal Jordan instead of Bruce Wayne hmmm? If Batman has so much will why isnt he the goddam Green Lantern of Sector 2814???

Your Favorite Nerd,
Aaron

PS: Thank you marvel.com

Posted by Aaron/nerd on October 6th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

Dear Mr, Shank,
I would also like to add that if we are talking about Batman vs. Iron Man (which im pretty sure we are), then Tony Start would be standing in that “Tank”, which he designed and know how to use perfectly, meaning that when Batman finally reaches Iron Man after running at him (because you know Batman cant fly or run superhumanly fast or anything) Iron Man will be ready to fight Bats in that “Tank”, with all those weapons and gadgets, which mixes in with his own unique fighting style Tony Stark/Iron Man has developed.

Once again your favorite nerd,
Aaron

Posted by Great Dane on October 7th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

The super hero is iron man not tony stark and ironman would rape batman in the face. There is literally no way batman could even hurt iron man. Suck on that.

Posted by Shank on October 7th, 2011 at 3:00 pm

@Aaron
I will reply to you since i can reason with you not your so call friend. Anyway i know how powerfull and strong the suit of Iron man is. I understand all your point of views. However; you must think of the real life condition; this is not a boxing match or a tournament where you put 2 super hero in a arena, of course with these condition batman vs iron man; the chance Bat will lose will be very high.

But the story isnt like that; imagine both Bat and Ironman receive mission to fight each other at their bases, there is no idiot that running around in his suit, it’s like wearing a bull’s eye board. Now both have to do research about their opponent. Iron man would not have many luck to find info about Bats since most criminals he deal with is psychopath or consider him a myth; his identity power and weakness is sealed . In the other hand everyone know who Iron man is, his power; his address etc…… . So unless from the time of receiving the mission till the end Iron man wearing his suit all the times; knock him out wont be much difficult for Bats. That is how a logic story goes; not by comparing power without and real life condition.

The writers did do their research before writing; they knew that in these circumstance; not many Heroes can win against Bats. Of course i did not say that he can defeat all. For example : he could not win against Dr. Fate no matter how good his skills is.

Now Iron man suit; it’s a great suit; pack a lot of fire power, but it’s still a machine made out of metal, it can be destroyed by acid; EMP; explosive etc…. Remember Bats technology is on term with Iron man, and unless Iron man suit is made our of material from wolverine’s skeleton, it’s still can be destroyed . Oh and bats also has a suit similar to Iron man; he used it to deal with Bane.

@Clarence :
Depend on people; The Nazis consider Hitler’s reason is right; a hoe may consider sleeping with various of people is right . What is yours ? I hope your fiancées does know how many people you did sleep with before or during when you met her; cause keeping secrets is what destroys a marriage. I have a girlfriend you dont have to worry and at least i know that I have done any immoral act to destroy our relationship, what about you ?

p/s: According to your comment that my words has no value to you, why did you keep coming back here ? Just ignore it ^_^ .

Posted by Aaron/nerd on October 7th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

@Shank
I am glad you realized that Iron Man would win in the first situation that you came up with. I was under the impression that this was the scenario all along.

For your second scenario, yes Batman would have a better chance. It would be easier to find Tony Stark/Iron Man since his identity is public, but if he got the mission I think he would take more precations in protecting himself. Also if Tony got the mission to destroy Batman, he would be in his suit looking for him. So while Batman does have a better chance in this scenario, its not as easy as Batman finding Tony Stark and knocking him out.

As for the weaknesses stated in the suit, im pretty sure Tony has made precautions to proctect himself from the weapons you stated. The personal defector shield and magnetic feild generators will protect him from acid, EMPs, explosives, and etc. Regarding the suit made for Bane, I dont think it qualifies in this fight because we are talking about Batman vs. Iron Man, not Batman in his Anti-Bane suit vs. Iron Man

Posted by Shank on October 9th, 2011 at 10:21 am

@Aaron
Well not as easy as like piece of cake but still; it is not an equal stand; it’s a predator against prey now since Bats can get to Tony any times while Tony has to be vigilante all the time; this could wear a man out fast; specially Tony did not undergo training like Bats.

About the suit; these precautions are for direct approach and still the suit can be destroyed; it’s hard but it’s not like against superman without a Krypt; whether Bats able to find away or not who knows; but through story we knew that Bats always 3 steps ahead of his opponents ; so he has high chance to get around but still; it’s a chance. Now Anti-Bane suit; it’s still one of bats equipment like various of Tony suit, Bats does not use it much cause its impossible to gather intel and it could kill some one as you see most the time Tony use his suit. So it’s kinda weird if we dont allow him to use his suit.

Posted by TopKing on October 10th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

@ Clarence
Let’s not get hostile. This is clearly a misunderstanding.

@Shank
You do need to work on grammar. I have stated this before, BUT I still agree with you. Most times, when these two technologically advanced fighters go head to head, they usually gather info about their enemy first, then fight second. So, Batman would know all about Iron Man’s suit and its weaknesses, and vice-versa. I still say Batman.

@Aaron
Though I do say Iron Man and Batman will know everything about their enemies before the fight, Batman is ALWAYS prepared…period. So, you will never know EVERYTHING about Batman.

Posted by Matk on October 12th, 2011 at 1:05 am

Your underestimating Batman’s ability to analyze a situation. The man is prepared for fucking everything. He can take out superman if he wants too..

Posted by TopKing on October 17th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

@Matk
SERIOUSLY!!!!!!! I totally agree with you. Batman is always prepared. The only time he wasn’t prepared was for Bane. No one expected THAT to happen, not even Batman, because before Bane, he only fought normal people.

Posted by lol on November 8th, 2011 at 1:19 am

IRON MAN
(POWERS)

While the armor is not on Stark still has some powers, due to the Extremis Virus.

Psi-Shields: Due to new S.H.I.E.L.D treatments, Stark’s mind is shielded from even the strongest telepaths.

Direct Cybernetic Interface: Extremis has fused Stark’s armor to his body, allowing him to store the inner layers of the Iron Man armor in the hollows of his bones as well as control it through direct brain impulses, and use some of its powers while not on. He has direct control over the communication devices, scanning equipment, and recording devices located in his helmet.

* Wireless Communication: He is also able to remotely connect to external communications systems such as satellites, cellular phones, and computers throughout the world.

* Superhuman Reflexes: The Extremis virus grants him super speed reactions and movements.

* Regenerative Systems: He has the ability to heal himself and repair the armor.

Iron Man’s Armor

Iron Man’s primary powers come from his armored suit.

(Support Powers)
Suiting up the Iron Armor: The armor used to require several machines to put on the suit, in a lengthy process. Later, this was changed to having it in a suitcase, which shortened the suiting up time, but was not very effective on the battlefield. However, recently, it has been shown that Stark can hold the armor within himself, and use it when needed, and spring into action in mere seconds.

* Superhuman Strength: He is capable of lifting up to over 100 tons when wearing his armor.

* Superhuman Speed: Even when not traveling for extended distances, the armor enables the wearer to move and react at high speeds.

* Flight: The armor can typically reach speeds in excess of Mach 8, in recent comics however Iron Man has been depicted as able to reach orbital velocities (5 miles per second) and up to speeds that can outrun black holes. Use of the jet boots provide enough power to lift a load of about 500 tons.

* Power Cells: The armor is powered by a combination of solar converters, electrical batteries and an on-board generator that uses beta particle absorption as a fuel source. Not to mention the arc reactor that also powers the suit.

* Energy Conversion Power Recharge: The armor is also able to convert nearby or fare away energy sources, such as heat or kinetic energy or energy from the planet itself into electricity, or even drain energy directly into the batteries for recharge.

* Self-Contained Life-Support System & Environmental Protection: The armor can be completely sealed for operations in vacuum or underwater, providing its own life support, and is shielded against radiation.

* Energy Absorption: The armor is also able to drain multiple forms of energy for its own use.

* Magnetism: The armor can use magnetism to pull or push metal objects at will.

* Artificial Intelligence: An internal artificial intelligence operating system that provides strategies, background information on opponents, and on surroundings and the current status of the suit, and prevents a lock on from targeting systems.

* Sensor Systems: Known sensors include radar/lidar, night vision, and physiological/medical scans that allowed Iron Man to take the vitals of other people, including heart and brain scans and monitors. These scans also provided Stark with real-time personal physiological data. An all-environmental scan for atmospheric content or life forms–including astral energy projections–often came in handy. It should be noted that the armor scans, radars, and environmental sensors were running at all times, recording everything Iron Man came in contact with. A magnometer was installed in the left wrist, while both gauntlets had atomic-force microscopes installed in the thumbs and index fingers that were capable of seeing to the nano scale.

* Invisibility: Advanced composite ceramics, fused with a kevlar-like polymer are backed by optical fiber networks, that, working in synch with an array of poly-carbon head hologram generators cause the armor to be invisible to any form of detection, including night vision, infrared, and enhanced super-human senses. To further thwart detection systems the suit houses an active noise-reduction engine for silent stalking. And to achieve total silent running, the armor even stores the CO 2 produced by the wearer–releasing it through small vents only when circumstances are right.

* Holographic Decoys: Untraceable holographic duplicates of himself that are generated from the suit. They are projected in a way to look real, and show no trace of their origins.

* Emulated “Spider-Sense”: Tony made a built-in neural net that replicated Spider-Man’s pheromone-based defenses, creating his own Spider Sense.

Override: When required, armor systems including strength amplification, durability amplification, and repulsor intensity can be greatly increased, by bypassing safety circuits and limiters. However, there is a chance that this can result in a complete system failure of the armor. An example of this mode is when Iron Man easily lifted a 16,000 ton Nuclear Reactor, and flew into the sky and threw it into the sea. The range of the Override can be controlled as only reaching his very limit and staying at it for a long time will cause a system failure. This range goes from a safe 800% to 3200%, up to a very dangerous 5000%.

(Defensive Powers)

Crystallized Iron Armor: The armor has evolved from a bulky iron suit to a molecularly aligned matrix of crystallized iron enhanced by magnetic fields over layers of other metals like titanium, creating a shell that is pliable, yet capable of amazing resilience and protection.

* Enhanced Durability: His armor is very durable, capable of withstanding tremendous amounts of punishment. It can withstand high caliber bullets with ease. He can also withstand rockets, missiles, torpedoes, high powered lasers, and such, taking little to no damage. Future armors were fully resistant against electricity, fire, heavy impacts, energy blasts, take zero Kelvin and up to the Suns temperatures, even some of Thor’s attacks(see Thorbuster). The suit can withstand almost unlimited kinetic and thermal impact, as well as most forms of radiation thanks to its refractory coating. The armor can survive anything short of a nuclear explosion at ground zero. The suit automatically protects its wearer when he enters an intrinsically hostile environment, such as outer space or deep sea. The armor even has specialized circuitry that guards against telepathic attacks. Tony is very confident in his suit’s defensive abilities, when he was caught in a nuclear explosion, he was only thinking about women and completely forgot about what was happening around him.

* Force Field: Energy shielding that can protect the user from harm. It is also capable of reflecting attacks and staying mobile. At 2% power, the shield is strong enough to withstand a nuclear explosion.

(Offensive Powers)

* Repulsor Rays: The armor’s primary energy weapon. A particle beam weapon, standard equipment in the palm gauntlets; can repel physical and energy-based attacks, traveling as a single stream or as a wide-field dispersal. It’s damage potential is extremely lethal, from being able to go through 2 inches of steel like paper to blasting a hole through a mountain. They can be powered up to make a larger beam or a Full Form Repulsor Ray, which does 360 degrees of attacks. The power of the Repulsor Beams can range from the basic ones such as the one from the Mark 3, which fires 2 gigawatt beams, to the beams on a much further model of the suit such as the Model 27 which fires beams in the high petawatt region, but those require a little assistance from outside.

* Unibeam: A powerful searchlight, capable of projecting beams in virtually every light spectrum. Also used as a powerful weapon that can destroy anything in its path. It fires a boosted form of the Monobeam with some Arc Reactor energy backing it up.

* Lasers: Standard lasers that can be used as weapons or for welding.

* Pulse Bolts: Extremely powerful plasma discharges that propagate in strength over distance, but implode if they get overloaded.

* Energy Blade: Based on the same design Tony Stark used to build Captain America’s energy shield, this laser sword, emitted from his left arm, could also be flattened into a shield on his hands, or spread over the entire armor to encase the armor in a protective covering.

* Pulse Barrage: Pulse Barrage is one of Iron Man’s standard long range attack. Because of its extremely low energy consumption, Pulse Barrage can be a very effective attack. an upgraded Red Pulse Barrage has the ability to penetrate through foes hitting others behind them, and the ability to ricochet off walls hitting more targets.

* Nanobots: Tiny nanobots can attack machines and tear into their armor. A certain variety used against aliens can turn their biological weaponry against them.

* Freon Stream: An attack capable of freezing the air.

* Smart Missiles: The Smart Missile is one that can target the weak points of a structure, object, or foe to inflict maximum damage with minimal payload.

* Missile Box: Similar to an assault helicopter rocket pack, holds several missiles of up to eight types rockets, including Anti-Tank, Anti-Ship, Spent Uranium Core Armor-Piercing, Flame Bomb, Fire Suppressant, Smoke, Tear Gas, Radio Repeater and a Mini-Nukes. Each type of missile can scan and target several targets at once and fire at a moments notice. The missile can also reach Mach 2 in under 5 seconds.

* Monobeam: A powerful beam used on early versions of the Iron Man suit. However, it’s range was only a few yards. Fires a standard laser beam.

* Mini-gun: This mini-gun, used on the War Machine armor, can fire electrically primed, 3.9 mm regular or spent-uranium-core armor-piercing rounds in nearly 360 degrees. It can be set to fire between 1 and 1000 rounds per second.

* Gauntlet Mini-canon: This variably configured gun contains eight kinds of specialty 3.9 mm ammo: Spent-Uranium-Core Armor-Piercing, High Explosive, Concussion Type, High Temperature Thermite, Tear Gas, Tracer, Flare and Smoke. They can be switched in the middle of combat instantly.

* Tri-beam: This version of the Unibeam runs on direct power from the Arc Reactor, draining it’s energy rapidly if not fully charged. It has considerable knockback.

* Multi-beam: As the name implies, the Multi-beam can fire multiple energies at the same time. Generally used with the energy that Tony Stark has absorbed.

* Pentabeam: The Pentabeam has microwave lensing that allows for directed beams of high joule electrons, protons, acoustic energy, and neutrons.

* Omnibeam: Rather then only firing beam type attacks, the Omnibeam can generate heats at 25232 degrees Fahrenheit, extremely powerful lights causing irreversible blindness in the enemy, and emit ultrasonic attacks capable of stunning even superhumanly durable foes and even causing disintegration. The other way the Omnibeam is fired, is by absorbing or draining any energy in Iron Man’s vicinity, drawing it into his chest reactor, and converting it into billions of petawatts and firing it.

* Hyper-velocity Impact: The program Hyper-velocity allows Tony to think and move at a much faster time frame then everyone else, allowing for quicker attacks. Also, it could create an electrical bubble if Tony is going fast enough.

* Vibranium: Vibranium could be used in several ways, mostly against things that are made of metal.

* Plasma Discharge: A plasma discharge is given off when the suit comes into contact with Vibranium. This discharge is strong enough to bring even Thor to his knees.

(ABILITIES)
Expert Tactician: He is a brilliant tactician capable of quickly formulating strategies and new plans should the situation change.

Skilled Combatant: Stark was trained in unarmed combat by Captain America and has become quite physically formidable on his own when the situation demands it. He is also a great melee fighter while in the armor as a single punch is as strong as a solid steel ball traveling at 3,500 ft./sec.

Indomitable Will:As evidenced by his two serious bouts with alcoholism and subsequent recovery, Stark is possessed of tremendous strength of will, never giving up and often emerging from defeat even stronger. It is arguable that the true “Iron Man” is not the armor, but Stark himself.

Posted by lol on November 8th, 2011 at 1:20 am

BATMAN
(POWERS)
Peak Human Conditioning: Through intense training, specialized diet, and biofeedback treatments, The Batman represented the pinnacle of human physical prowess. His physical attributes exceeded that of any Olympic level athlete that has ever completed.[citation needed] Strength, speed, stamina, agility, reflexes and coordination were at peak human perfection. Batman began his physical and mental conditioning when he was 11 and then intense physical training and weight lifting at age 12. He has mastered full body control by the time he was 18. Wayne abstains entirely from drinking alcohol, though he presented Bruce Wayne, his alter ego, as a borderline alcoholic (he created this illusion by drinking ginger ale and pretending it is champagne). Batman’s refusal to drink was directly linked to keeping his body in its absolute best. Bruce Wayne, since the age of 15, has created a strict diet to enable his body to develop and operate at its most proficient, along with biofeedback treatments (using portable/non portable machines to stimulate muscles to contraction. Batman has performed amazing physical feats due to his superior physique. He engaged in an intensive regular regimen of rigorous exercise (including aerobics, weight lifting, gymnastics, and simulated combat) to keep himself in peak condition, and has often defeated opponents whose size, strength, or other powers greatly exceeded his own. He has spent his entire life in pursuit of physical perfection and has attained it through constant intensive training and determination.

* Peak Human Strength: Batman regularly bench-presses at least 1000 lbs during his exercise routine.
* Peak Human Reflexes: Bruce’s reflexes were honed to such a degree that he has caught one of Green Arrow’s arrows in mid flight when he tried to shoot him.[citation needed] He has also been able to dodge point blank gunfire.
* Peak Human Speed: He could run at speeds comparable to the finest competing athletes.

* Peak Human Endurance: His endurance was comparable to that of the finest Olympic Decathlon participant.[citation needed] His lung capacity was so great that he could hold his breath underwater for 3 minutes and 15 seconds.

* Peak Human Agility: His agility was greater than that of a Chinese acrobat and an Olympic gold medalist gymnast.[citation needed] His main phase of movement was Parkour which he learned in France and used that to scale the cities rooftops in an acrobatic manner.[citation needed]

* Peak Human Durability: He has been shot numerous times, but wears kevlar lined body armor.

* Master Acrobat: Proficient in gymnastics and acrobatics.
* Martial Arts Master: Batman is one of the finest human combatants Earth has ever known. He trained in the US for various martial arts for 3 years. He has mastered 127 styles of martial arts including Muay Thai, Escrima, Krav Maga, Capoeira, Savate, Yaw-Yan, Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Jujitsu, Ninjitsu, Kendo, Fencing, swordsmanship, Kenjutsu, Kali, Bojutsu, Francombat, Boxing, Kickboxing, Hapkido, Wing Chun, Parkour, Shorin Ryu, Silat, Chin Na, Kyudo, Aikido, Varma Ati, Jeet Kune Do, Shaolin, Ba Gua, Hung Gar, Tai Chi, Kung Fu, and Kenpo. His primary form of combat[citation needed] is an idiosyncratic admixture of Tae Kwon Do, Judo, Muay Thai, Karate, Boxing, Jujitsu, and Ninjitsu.

* Weapons Master: Through his martial arts training, he has become an expert on virtually all types of weaponry. He is an exceptional swordsman as evident in his fight with Ra’s al Ghul, his proficiency in jui jitsu can proclaim his swordsmanship skill. Proficient at knife throwing, Escrima, & melee weapons mastery, having mastered Kobudo. He was trained and became proficient in all arms. He soon learned expanded melee weapon techniques and he has learned expanded weapon/device sciences. He still practices during his combat sessions to keep his skills intact, though he prefers unarmed combat.

* Master of Stealth: His Ninjitsu training has made him a master at stealth capable of breaching high security facilities with ease and without being detected.

* Expert Marksman: Due to his training in Ninjitsu, Batman almost never misses his targets, 9/10 times he’s succesful. He has been practicing accuracy since the early days of his training and is almost on par with the Green Arrow in terms of accuracy.

(EQUIPMENT)

* Batsuit: The costume Batman wears is composed by kevlar and a little percentage of titanium; it’s bullet-proof and resistant to various types of attack (explosions, impacts, falls, etc…). It’s also flame-retarding and insulating. The gloves and the boots are reinforced to rebound the impact of punches and kicks. The gloves have also some metallic blades on their sides. The cape is super-light and it can be used to glide. The mask has a little percentage of lead, which shields the face of Batman from x-ray powers or x-ray technology; it has also an infrared viewer and auditory sensors, which improve Batman’s senses. The mask, is also accessorized with some security systems (aggravating gas, electric blasts, ecc…) like the utility belt. The mask is also a transmitter receiver.

* Utility Belt: Batman keeps most of his personal field equipment in a signature piece of apparel, a yellow utility belt. Over the years it has contained items such as plastic explosives, nerve toxins, batarangs, smoke bombs, a fingerprint kit, a cutting tool, a grappling hook gun, and a “re-breather” breathing device. Superman had entrusted Batman with a ring made of kryptonite, to be used should the Man of Steel ever need to be reined in (due to being mind-controlled by a villain, etc.) “who do you think will win?)

Posted by lol on November 8th, 2011 at 1:29 am

oh an finally stark would rape batman for example stark drunk carrying a nuke will just drop it on batman’s head.

Posted by Shank on November 8th, 2011 at 4:24 pm

1st: If you want to talk about later development; ok; do you know that batman had made a special suit able to block bullet; laser etc………. . That suit also enhance his strength 10 fold, consider he is already as strong as Capt- and then x 10. The suit also has invisibility and others thing. Ya wanna talk about that ?

2nd: Iron man do not have super reflex or strength; he only has acute sensory which will be a every bad thing if he meet up with Bats; why ? Example : acute sight; can see in the dark very well, booms flash bombs he is blind .

3rd: Batman is a genius tactician; not only that his will is even stronger than even green lantern, when he set to do something he wont stop till it is done by him. Bats not only trained in body but also mind. Even martian manhunter could not read his mind.

Finally: If Ironman want to kill Bat; he HAVE TO KNOW WHERE TO DROP THE BOMB. Unfortunately for him; Bat can kill him any time he want to unless Mister Stark stay in his smelly case 24/7

Posted by jared on November 21st, 2011 at 5:40 am

jesus how moronic are these bat fan boys? lets see. what can batman actually do to Ironman…emp? nope, come on now, even stealth bombers are emp sheilded. stealth? nope, multi spectrum sensor makes that nill. little yellow belt? what in there does batman have that stark hasnt been hit with a thousand times more powerful. the bat robo suit that barely beat bane? come on now get real. the bat robo suit powered by kryptonite he used against superman? sorry ironman is immune to kryptonite. batman mastered over 100 forms of martial arts in seven years? (cough) all martial arts does not originate in japan, he’s just a ninja. ninja kick a block of metal and see what breaks first, metal or bone? starks suit not only gives him insanly super powered strength but speed reflexes and agility too. Starks an alcoholic? if he can do half the things he can do totally hammered, imagine what he would do to batman if he was on a withdrawl rage.

Posted by jared on November 21st, 2011 at 5:59 am

@ shank. nevermind its obvious you know nothing about either character.but i’ll humor you.
Ist. multiply that times 100 and hes still not powerful enough and thats without bringing in the hulk or thor buster armors. invisibility? sorry still not going to work against multi spectrum sensors. and before you bring it up, no hacking or disabiling, many smarter and resourceful have tried (dr doom mandarin hydra and shield have tried and failed, stark has prepared for every eventuality. and prep goes both ways here.

2nd no super reflexes? lets see if batman can dodge missiles, bullets, and radar tracking. at the same time, i do think that qualifies as super speed and reflexes. strength? jeez even if you go by the low end feats from the movies, he catches a car and thats at like 8 percent of his power. flash bombs? are you serious? my car windshield darkens depending on how bright it is out side lol.

3rd. he wont stop until hes dead, iron man does kill, once again i’ll go by low end feats from the movie. do you honestly believe the guys he punched and repulsered in the movies actually survived? just say this, they wont be seen again except in a re run.

Posted by Shank on December 1st, 2011 at 11:20 pm

@jared
For heaven sake; has every ironman fan boy an idiot. Did you guys think this is a video game where you idiot could match up 2 superhero in a cage match and watch them fight ? Use your brain for 1.

1st What is thor or the hulk have to do with anything here ? Iron man suit was not made from indestructable material so with that strength of x10 Capt the suit will be damaged .Do you even understand what multi spectrum sensors mean ? Look it up, dont embarrass yourself. And you sure that if Dr.Doom or shield cant do it Bats cant do it ? give me proof; common show us proof . If it’s base on assumption then it’s just your stupid little assumption.

2nd Have you read Bats comic ? he dodges bullets from a lot of guns like everyday and he even able to dodge the Omega Beam from Darkseid which even the flash cant dodge it , top that man in a tin can. And dodge radar tracking ? How old are you ? do you know what radar is ? Dodging it ? Lolz.. Your stupid car windshield does not darken by itself. There is no material that absorb light when it get brighter. It’s depend on computer sensors and people, not an idiot, know that computer cant react fast enough to block a flash bomb because the flash bomb unlike our day light does not changing slowly.

3rd Iron can kill sure easy; since everyone know that alcoholic has no morality at all. But then does he fast enough to kill Bats ? He was able to dodge bullets and missle thanks to the booster rocket in his suit which mean he need a large area to fly around and dodge them; but his stupid punch kick still just the same speed as a lowly nerd.

You idiots only look at the kicking and punching. Bats has more skill that just kicking and punching. Can that tin man dodge bullets without flying around ? no he cant but Bats can and that was against multi opponents. Can that 1 trick genius able to deduce identity of the whole Avenger by himself ? lolz no. Iron man is nothing but a man in a suit. His suit give him the courage to be save people cause he sure that he wont be harm in side that tin can.

And for the last time. That idiot has to know where Bats is to kill Bats unless he is fine with killing million of innocent people – what a great Hero that tin man is -. While Bats was proven to be able to deduce and tracking the whole Justice League will sure be able to track and find out where that tin man is. So i love to see the coward tin man stay in his suit 24/7 with all the sweating, etc……

Posted by Aaron/Nerd on December 2nd, 2011 at 3:05 pm

@Shank

In case you didn’t know, Batman was killed by Darkseid’s Omega Beams in Final Crisis #6. Just thought I would point that out.

Posted by Subhadeep on December 8th, 2011 at 5:29 am

I would just like to point out that if anyone has seen batman: gotham knight than there is a dvice devoloped by lucius fox which acts as a repulsor device against bullets , lasers , projectiles ,etc. it is fitted in batman’s suit also if you would bring technology up then the batsuit of the future has cloaking device as well as flight capability and sice ironman has a more advanced suit then batman should ideally be allowed to bring batwing and batmobile into the picture. Then it will be a vastly different scenario. Oh and by the way tony stark doesn’t have any fighting style. Everything he does is programmed onto the computer and the system executes it as opposed to bruce wayne who is a master of multiple martial arts.

Posted by TopKing on December 9th, 2011 at 10:48 am

@Subhadeep
I like how you summed things up here. Batman is a master of Martial Arts–many different forms of them might I add–and therefore can beat Tony Stark in hand-to-hand combat if it were to be Bruce Wayne vs Tony Stark. Batman vs Iron Man, not exactly a fair fight. Iron Man’s suit is very much stronger than a normal person, and Batman is not a superhuman, alien, mutant, or sub-marinian creature. Instead, he is a man pushed to peak human physical and mental ability. Put Batman in his upgraded Bat armors and then it will be a fair fight. Having these two fight as they are is kind of a win-win for both of them, but not exactly 50-50. It’s more of randomized ratio. Ex: Say Batman already knew about Iron Man before the fight, then he would have developed something to stop Iron Man, but if it were vise-versa, then Iron Man would win. Say they were thrown into the battle without a clue as to who either of them were, then it’s anyone’s guess. If batman developed a suit extremely similar Iron Man’s, then it’s Batman all day.

Posted by Shank on December 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

@Aaron yes well he is not god; or mutant; he got old got tired and got killed that is something we can all count on. But he did able to avoid omega beam which is an extreme feat

Posted by Shawnboy on January 13th, 2012 at 11:46 am

No one has broached the secret identity issue!!!!

Tony: I think Ill kill batman today…I sure hope he shows up.

Bruce:I think ill kill Iron man today
, Ill just call up stark industries and find out when the next big tech show or party is…oh wait, theres tony at his house drunk and sleeping with a super model… boom he’s dead…

Batman beat superman…no question he could take out ironman..

Posted by Black Suave on January 13th, 2012 at 12:43 pm

I forget, how did Batman beat Superman again?

Somebody refresh my memory.

Posted by Ross on February 2nd, 2012 at 12:41 pm

yeah, this was crap. look at this one though: http://www.battlechampion.com/featured-battles/

Posted by Jonny Sodercola on February 2nd, 2012 at 2:26 pm

Batman gets a lot of bullshit. People think that because batman is himself that he’ll win everything. K tell me this would someone like green arrow beat iron man? No because no abilities other then what he’ll holding soo yeah iron man wins IMO

Posted by Jacob on February 14th, 2012 at 12:49 am

Omfg im going to settle this now, batman is badass, but all his equipment is made to throw his enemies off guard or distraction. Therefore nothing batman has can do anything to even harm iron man or dent his suit. Sure batman has the ability to stick to the darkness but im 100% positive iron man can just switch on some form of night vision and rape batman with his blasters. Now i may be wrong here but while batman has wayne enterprises, that is it, iron man has stark industries, and has the money to fund S.H.E.I.L.D or however its spelled, lastly the biggest thing on the topics, the classic batman EMP idea, if batman were to EMP iron man, there is no way of batman reaching tony on the inside, where hed wait out the EMP, get up and kill batman.
Flame me if you want but its really obvious if you think about it

Posted by Jacob on February 14th, 2012 at 12:52 am

Oh and the fact that batman has not and will not kill anyone, iron man has no problem

Posted by TopKing on February 14th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

@Jacob
Um, you realise Iron Man won’t kill anyone either? Right? At least not intentionally…

Posted by Jacob on February 15th, 2012 at 1:48 am

But the point is, iron man is willing too, batman refuses to.

Posted by TopKing on February 22nd, 2012 at 11:12 am

@Jacob
You have a point. But, for all intents and purposes of ruling out the death factor, this is a fight, not a deathmatch.

Posted by john jack royal on February 28th, 2012 at 7:13 pm

I just want to say my piece.
in one corner you have iron man.A man who can withstand a nuclear explosion at 2 percent power.A man who built a suit powerful enough to kill dozens of terrorists, under there noses,WITH A BOX OF SCRAP!!!
And in the other corner you have a normal albeit willfull human in a batsuit.This put simply is a missmatch from hell.And before anyone brings up the “bat man beat super man” line of bull,just remember that iron man can fight with the hulk.A being that can shatter planets.A being who would send doomday (who killed super man)
home to his mommy.A being that was born in a gamma explosion and isnt CRIPPLED BY A LITTLE GREEN ROCK.I don’t care what secret compartment on his toolbelt/divine intuition/detective skills/hypothetical- battlesuit-witch-has-not-manifested-itself bat man has going for him.He simple can’t do anything and i repeat ANYTHING to damage iron man and no amount of fanboyism/doubble talk/hypothetical-situation-in-witch-bat-man-buys out stark industries-and creates-his-own-armor is going to change that.Bat man is cool but don’t make him out to be a god.He’s not qualified.

Posted by Jacob on February 28th, 2012 at 11:01 pm

Thank you, amazing point there, a better fit match would be the hulk vs. solomon grundy, iron man vs dr doom maybe, batman vs. the hobo with a shotgun, lets be realistic, hed make his own challenges just to beat him. Or iron man vs. mr freeze but like with out the gun and if they went punch for punch

Posted by Shank on February 29th, 2012 at 6:37 pm

And this is why all you guys can do are post stupid comment without and brain. Lucky for us the writers for DC and Marvel comics are not brainless.

Posted by john jack royal on March 3rd, 2012 at 2:32 pm

When iron man 3 comes out i hope they introduce the hulkbuster.Chew on that bat freaks.

Posted by TopKing on March 5th, 2012 at 11:43 am

@ john jack royal
You’re just basing your argument off of their ability to take a hit. Batman is smarter than all of his team, and the whole Marvel Universe. In his whole experience, he’s fought people like Iron Man. The only problem he’d have with Hulk is keeping Hulk calm, which is almost impossible. Given he can keep him calm, then Bruce Banner comes out, and battle done.

@Jacob
Stop. Stop. Stop. His whole argument is appealing to one part of the fight. Also, Dr. Doom is a genius. He’d probably kill Iron Man easily. Hulk will definitely pummel Solomon Grundy, especially if Grundy can’t be reborn with electricity. And also, you’re being a bit emotional toward this argument. Just think and understand that Batman can pretty much handle anyone he went up against, save the omniscient beings in the Marvel Universe.

@Shank
I agree with you. no one seems to be thinking about this argument. They miss the point badly.

@john jack royal
Batman has something of a Hulkbuster too. So, scratch that.

Posted by Jacob on March 5th, 2012 at 2:17 pm

Im not being emotional to this argument, the original post was one sided towards batmans favour so im posting in iron mans favour, and yes bruce wayne is a genius but tony stark invented a new element. Bruce wayne is quick on his feet but tony has a suit that blasts him around huge cities in minutes. Im just saying for batmans speed and smarts, it seems tony has a little more and proved to have a little more,

Posted by Shank on March 6th, 2012 at 4:28 pm

@Jacob: Well; Bruce is agile; but Iron man is not; he can not dodge bullet or laser. His suit allow him to out maneuver firearms require a large area to do it. If he stuck in a small area; he will take all the shots. About intelligent; i believe Batman has more; he had mastered all subjects from science to fictions and martial arts, cable of doing a lecture of each subject in the university. While he did not invented anything but he able to create antidote for joker gas; built a robot suit to fight Bane. So it is not because he is less intelligent than Iron man that he did not invented anything; but because he did not have the time as Iron man does – having people to know your identity help a lot in this -.

p/s: Hulk will never able to defeat superman. He is not smart enough to use anything against him. And brute force ? seriously. Hulk had been using his full strength every time – dont tell me that in the anger and rage he able to hold back – and he only cable of doing damage when superman do it normally.

Posted by john jack royal on March 16th, 2012 at 12:21 pm

Dc admits that doomsday is a hulk ripoff and he STILL managed to kill super man.
Hulk has the capacity for infinite strength so even when an opponent starts of stronger than the hulk they end up losing becaus they cant kill hulk before he gets mad enough to overpower them.But back to the matter at hand bruce does not and I repeat does NOT have anything like the hulkbuster.He might have a bane buster but not a hulk buster.And by the way theres no way in hell that brucie can dodge a laser.Lasers move at THE SPEED OF LIGHT (witch is 186,282 miles per second) even someone as fast as flash would have trouble dodging a laser so as soon as iron man fires….Well you get the idea.

Posted by Shank on March 16th, 2012 at 8:51 pm

@john: Hulk can’t FLY; and he does not have infinite strength one example: he cant kill wolverine, if he had infinite strength he should able to destroy his metal skeleton; you cant get angrier, or more rage; that psychologically impossible, Hulk cant fly so if superman really want to end it fast just throw him into the sun end of story. And i wonder if superman allow Hulk to transform that’s really sporty ?

You do know that Bruce design the watch tower right ? so he the weapon on the watch tower able to bust Hulk. Human reaction is faster than speed of light – 1 example flash light; your normal blink is faster than it -, Bruce able to dodge Omega beam which flash cant dodge because he did not train in martial art.

And finally, Iron man need to know who Bat is to do that. THIS IS NOT A FREAKING BOXING MATCH, It’s a street fight, and i doubt Iron man has detective skill to fight Batman; in the other hand i know for sure that Bat able to do that and break Iron man neck before he could get in his suit.

You guys only compare equipments but not skills. Bruce alone create plans to neutralize every single member of the justice league which include Steel, Red Tornado, Rocket Red,……. these character is similar to Iron man; so tell me any reason why he cant win ?

Posted by john jack royal on March 17th, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Doomsday couldnt fly either but he still effed supes stuff up.
Anyway iron man can transform now IN SECONDS. He stores the extremis armor in his bones.Dont believe me wiki it.once bat and iron meet on the street there won’t be a second match.Iron man will just fry bats with his chest laser.And if by some act of god bats survives then tony will just fly to costa rica,sip some lemonade,and figure out who bat man is using his world renowned hacking skills.

Posted by Shank on March 19th, 2012 at 9:16 pm

You do know that Doomsday is similar to Superman right ? he can survive in space pretty much as superman while Hulk could not. Another point is Hulk is human engineering; and human mind is limited to what they know now while Doomsday is created by other Alien with much higher tech than human right ? And while Hulk do not have ability to adapt Doomsday does which make him able to kill superman.

Now even if Iron man able to store his armor in his bone; he will not know who Batman is so he wont be able to activate it on time to protect himself. Batman could just walk up as one of his disguises and poison or drug or do whatever he wants to Ironman. Find out whos Batman is through hacking ? you’re not thinking at all aren’t you ; Batman never store his information in any data bank; not even in the justice league computer. And the only way to hack to his personal files is from his computer. You really think Lex Luthor hadnt tried it online ? You really really need to think more.

Posted by TheDetective on March 21st, 2012 at 3:09 am

Your ignorance sickens me. Out of the two, and I am talking the movie universes here, Batman is the most likely to A. exist and B. have the equipment shown in the movies. I’m not talking about the stupid microwave emitter or the bat pod, but most of the other weapons/gadgets he uses are possible in the real world. For christ sake they actually mad a running Tumbler for the movie. Iron Man on the other hand has such bullshit technology it defies logic. For example in the movie it states that his suit is made from a “gold-titanium alloy” and is seen withstanding a depleted uranium tank round. There is no fucking way on this planet that a one inch thick plate of an alloy used in dentistry could withstand a tank shell/keep the person inside alive.

So if there was an actual fight between the two it would be Batman with all his gadgets, his actual reason for fighting crime and his goddamn ninjutsu vs. an alcoholic sitting in his garage wondering why the LED light in his chest won’t power the useless lump of metal he likes to put on to make himself feel better.

Posted by Shank on March 21st, 2012 at 10:58 am

@Detective: Well actually ; logic is only what we know at a time. It changes when we discover new thing. But anyway the idea to be able to make a suit of metal thin enough for human move around while strong enough to withstand bomb is impossible. The suit may survive the impact but the human inside wont. But it’s science fiction so we would like to consider it could be made.

Posted by john jack royal on March 24th, 2012 at 6:40 pm

@detective 1. Just because you cant comprehend iron mans technlogy doesnt make it bullshit.
2. I am sick and FUCKING tierd of the stark is a alchaholic comments.Tony stark has the will to overcome his addiction id like to see bat wank do as much. 3. The fact is iron man CAN withstand a tank round while bat man has trouble with dogs.@shank hulk can survive in space just look up his powers at marvel comics database.The hulk had the power to destroy an object twice the size of the earth with one punch,while super man needed martian manhunters help just to move the moon.I seriously loled at your “bat man could walk up with one of his disguises”shit.Iron man would never leave his air conditioned and highly comfortable suit.
And not to sound like a broken record but….BAT MAN WOULDN’T SURVIVE THE FIRST FUCKING FIGHT.

Posted by Shank on March 25th, 2012 at 7:30 am

@John: 1-Yours argument with detective is wrong; you are the one who is not understand technology. For example : copper and steel, if iron man suit make out of steel then the suit could withstand the copper round from tank or copper missiles because steel is stronger than copper. But it cant withstand the steel round from tank. So logic and fact goes iron man is impossible science fiction while bat man is possible and fiction.
2-No there is nothing said Hulk can survive in space; he need air as every earth creatures do. And where did you learn hulk can destroy object twice the earth ? Anyway to destroy and to move is different thing; and idiot all strength could destroy a truck; but a weight lifting need precision to lift it and move it across the street. Sup is not human and he was raise by human so 1st he do not understand his power, 2nd his power rising through years 3rd he always have to keep his power in check. So moving the moon idiotic like hulk will destroy the planet.
3- Sure Iron man feel free to live in the suit like lowly coward. And mind you the suit is not invincible. It’s made out of metal and a machine which mean it will be melt by heat by acid and will be broken by emp. And i dont know why you said Bat man would not survive the first fight. He had fought against opponent like iron man his whole career so i really dont see how he would lose. Ironman in the other hand never encounter anyone like Bat. So we have this scene : Batman found out who the Ironman is; Ironman did not. So Batman using one of his disguises moving around while Ironman has to sty in hi suit 24/7, even when sleeping, because he afraid of be killed. Batman using psychology warfare against Ironman torture ironman mentally and whalla we have the alcoholic come out. End game

Posted by Aaron/Nerd on March 25th, 2012 at 4:44 pm

@shank
First off, Iron Mans suit is possible to make in the comic book universe because they are freaking comic books. Comic book writers can put whatever they want to in a comic book and readers will accept it because its a damn comic book and the stuff inside of it isnt supposed to be real. Therefore you cant say Iron Mans suit is impossible science fiction without sounding like a dumbass.
Secondly, do you really think Tony Stark made a pitiful suit that didnt have precautions against the likes of heat, acid, or an EMP? The suit has a deflector shield which blocks attacks from heat and acid, and he has an EMP generator which means he probably has a device to counteract an EMP.
Also, what villain of Batman is like Iron Man?
And are you kidding me? Psychology Warfare? WTF?

Your Friendly Neighborhood Nerd,
Aaron

P.S: Whalla isnt a word, its spelled viola… just for future reference

Posted by Shank on March 25th, 2012 at 5:57 pm

@Aaron:
1/ Please read all; from the start i consider the suit can be made; i fixed John because he think that sci-fic is real and insult another one. You really need to read carefully

2/Weak against heat and acid is the basic of any metal. And i’m sure that Ironman suit is only made of steel or some what stronger but not indestructable so yes. Now precautions against heat and acid, there is none in real life, so we think about sci-fic: deflective shield – keep everything out also mean keep everything in, therefore his weakness will be his rocket booster in order to fly and his main attack when he activate the shield, I doubt Batman has any trouble with dealing with that. Now EMP, having one does not mean know how to counter one but for your sake let’s say he has one. However both the shield and emp protector are needed to be activated by him by voice . And as people said Batman has no trouble in tricking Ironman.

3/Villian in Batman DC that like Ironman – Toyman, Lex Luthor -

4/ Psychology warfare is something everyone use in a fight and for a rich inventor like Ironman he does not learn it and does not know how to fight against it. If you know that you’re being stalk but cant fnd out who is your stalker it will stress you out when you have to wear a dark suit 24/7 – i wonder how he could take care of his body’s needs – When you at home having a drink and just under your glass of wine there is a note from your stalker would scare the hell out of you.

p/s: Thank you; english is not my first.

Posted by Jacob on March 26th, 2012 at 3:54 am

Im getting kinda tired of the “emp will take iron man out” argument, batman has no way of touching Tony Stark as long as he’s in the suit. If he shut down the suit, Tony would activate a fail safe and Jarvis would reboot it seeing as it’s only the suit being shut down, his super computer is running off a separate wireless system in which he cannot be touched, its over

Posted by Aaron/Nerd on March 26th, 2012 at 1:44 pm

@shank
sorry about the first point, I did misread it I guess. My apologies on jumping to conclusions

Deflector shields dont neccessarily have to keep everything in. There are plenty of examples in scifi that show things going out of deflector shields. Also im not quite sure I understand your point about Batman not having any trouble dealing with that… i might have read it wrong but either way I dont understand that sentence. As for the EMP im pretty sure iron man is smart enough to have an emp protector and deflector shield up at all times. What would be the point of a deflector shield if it wasnt always protecting you?

Thank you for those examples. I couldnt think of anyone who is like Iron Man but those work. I dont know a whole lot about the toyman, but Im pretty sure Irom Mans suit is better and more sophisticated than Lex Luthors. You can say he is similar to Iron Man, but they still arent comparable.

First off I would like to say I do know what Psychology Warfare is, I just dont think it would really apply to this fight. I would also like to state that Iron Mans suit isnt dark, and if you watched the movies you would notice that he had a full heads up display within the helmet/mask, so im guessing its pretty bringht… any way he can see out of it so earths natural brightness will make it so its not dark. As for taking care of his bodily needs, the Iron Man suit has a filter that allows the wearer to get rid of bodily waste without the need of taking the suit off. If he needs to drink or eat, he just pops the front part of his helmet on and satisfies his stomach, and if he senses danger he puts the helmet back down. I would be surprised if he didnt have a immediate danger warning system to keep him protected. Now to continue on to the Physcology Warfare aspect of your argument, you have to take into account that Tony Stark is a very confident and COCKY S.O.B. He believes that his armor will protect him from any danger that might come his way, so Batmans attempts to Psychologically scare him wont phase Iron Man/Tony Stark because he is to cocky to believe he is in danger when wearing the Iron Man suit.

I would like to bring forth another point about Iron Man. You and your supporters keep stating that Iron Man is a drunk with now combat training. As I have said on multiple occasions as well as others who support Iron Man, Tony Stark was able to kick his addiction to alcohol so he could properly function as Iron Man… just to clear thing up. About him having no combat training, during the period that Tony Stark could not wear the Iron Man suit, he received combat training from Happy Hogan, James Rhodes, and our good ol’ american patriot Captain America so hes not a helpless nerd without his suit on… in fact he is able to hold his own when the time demads it. Now im not saying he is Batman with mastery in over 127 forms of martial art, but he knows a thing or two about fighting and combat.

I would also like to bring forth another point about Batman analyzing Iron Man during the fight. Iron Mans suit would analyze Batman as fast, if not faster so Batman’s analytical skills would be to no avail there. Just wanted to point that out.

Your Friendly Neighborhood Nerd,
Aaron

Posted by Shank on March 26th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

@Aaron:
1- Well since we do not know how a shield generator or a emp protector work we cant say for sure that there will be away to turn it on constantly without having any side effect. And the only deflector shield that i know could have something shoot out from it is from Star War, i dont know any from DC or Marvel so i would consider it cant.
2-The problem is not the suit; the target of psychology ware is Tony’s mind. Food, drink is something he has to intake everyday which could very much be poison, of course you could say that there will be scanning but the scanning only known what Tony know or at least what the others know about poison and Scarecrow fear gas or Joke’s gas is not one of them. So Iron man will having nightmare every day till he find out about Batman. Now The suit yes it a great technology but really ^_^; can you really stay there for 24/7 ? specially a person like Tony ? The filter process. I’m not smart enough; but really ^_^; imagining that process is gross me out so i’m sure that Tony wont do that unless the suit has magical power to get rid of body waste.
3-None said Iron man is bad at fighting; but his mind is not for fighting. You could not pitch Einstein to command an army against Hitler. Iron man mind is secure of the fact that his suit will protect him, he never had to deal with much stressful situation like batman where every moves could be your last.
4-The suit could analyze faster; Tony mind – again – is an inventor, a genius inventor however Bruce is a genius in combat and detective. The point is the suit could analyze faster but Tony could not develop the plan to neutralize Batman before Batman.

So back to the point is Ironman will be stuck in prey position untill he could find out who Batman is. Hacking and detective work is out of the question. The last choice is asking others. Superman ? nah i doubt he answer. Ra’s al Ghul ? I hope Iron man survive. So Batman could pretty much do anything he want.

p/s: Lex’s suit quite similar to ironman, though truth that it’s not as good as ironman suit, since it’s run by Kryp which already weakening Superman so Lex does not need others much, but the genius is the same.

Posted by john jack royal on March 27th, 2012 at 1:37 pm

@shank Its science FICTION of course I dont think its real,but in the context of this debate we have to assume that everything works in the way its shown to work.I got my hulk facts from the marvel comics database fyi and if you read his powers you will see that supes stands no chance at all.Iron man would (and i can’t beleive i have to say this again) vaporize bat man in their first fight end of story period………………………….everything else is just for the sake of argument.If this is the movies we’re talking about iron man would go online and discover that the same car bat man is rolling around in was made at wayne industries.He would then learn about bruce wayne and realize that he’s bat man.Iron man would then show up where he lives and blow him to kingdom come.btw iron mans suit is verry comfortable and he can be fed introveinesly he can stay in there a long long long time.

Posted by Aaron/Nerd on March 27th, 2012 at 2:14 pm

@shank
1. I see your point, but since we do not know how a shield generator or a emp protector work we cant say for sure that there is not a way to turn it on constantly without having any side effect. So the unsure argument goes both ways. Also you never hear Tony Stark/Iron Man say turn on the deflector shield because its probably always on… but that’s beside the point.
2. As I explained in my last post, the Iron Man suit has a bodily waste filtration system as well as a way to get rid of it which would allow for the wearer to stay in it for as long as they want. Going on to to the whole poison theory, if Batman were to poison Tony Stark, the enhanced healing factor granted to Tony because of the Extremis Virus would heal him and nullify the poison. Another point I would like to make is if Batman were to poison Tony Stark, that wouldn’t really be them fighting each other would it? Anyone could poison the other one but we are talking about who would win in a fight, not who could poison the other one faster.
3. How has Tony not been in a situation where each move could be his last? He is a superhero which means that he is risking his life on a daily basis for the betterment of the world so he has been in life threatening situations. You can’t say that there isn’t a superhero that hasnt been in life threatening situations cause that kind of comes with the job.
4.Tony wouldnt have to develop a plan to neutralize Batman during the fight because the suit would do it for him. If you read the civil war graphic novel, there is a scene where Captain America is fighting Iron Man, and Iron Man says the suit has recorded every punch he has ever thrown so the SUIT knows what Captain America will do before Cap does. The suit would do the same to Batman, so there is no need for Tony do formalize the plan.

Can you further explain your last point regarding Superman, Ra’s al Ghul, and how Batman can do whatever he wants? It didnt make to much sense.

I would also like to point out things that make Tony Stark less helpless than he seems. Because of the Extremis Virus, all of his organs are replaced and are more efficient. It also grants super human strength, speed, endurance, reflexes and the ability to project electricity and breathe fire. An altered extremis dose was made by Tony Stark to conceal the inner folds of his armor inside his bones and a technologic link to computers. So if Batman were to sneak up of Iron Man without his suit, he could call on the lower layers of his suit to protect him until he could put on the rest of his suit.

Your Friendly Neighborhood Nerd,
Aaron

Posted by Shank on March 27th, 2012 at 6:56 pm

@Aaron:
Your second point: What i mean in body waste is the process is so gross. I mean Tony has to be half naked right ?then ewww… i dont want to think of it at all. The point is that process is not logical unless the suit can open it’s lower part which will be a weak point. I dont know about that virus, and how good the effect could be. But the idea of even your foods is not safe would stress one mind out and that is the point of psychology warfare. And as i had said before; this is not a boxing match, this is a fight a street fight, you win you win, the method is not matter as long as it is your own strength.
Your 3rd point: Common; if your in suit of which even tank cant bust it; then deep in your mind you feel safe. How much risk Ironman take when deal with terrorist or robber ? Batman in the other hand his suit only protect him to a certain point, he only able to survive thanks to his skills.
Your 4th point: uhm… The suit A.I is not that advange to be able to think of the practical plan. In the comic or in the movie; the A.I only give out suggestion base on what Tony program it from data he knows which is least than Batman. And unlike Marvel Heroes, DC Hero is more secrecy. I dont know where Tony would able to find record of how Batman fight. Also no disrespect to Capt A; but Capt A is not trained as much as Batman; Batman took years to become what he is. While Capt just suddenly become like that though he is trained later but i doubt it is as many as Batman.

As i said before we dont say about later development because Batman able to make the suit in Batman Beyond as you know; the suit is pretty much like Tony suit except it does not contain lethal weapon, but it’s can withstand shots, lazer; 10x strength, invisible, flight…… . Beside storing his suit in his bones does not mean his organ is protected. How fast the suit could protect him, Batman learned from ninja school which he could deal the lethal blow pretty fast before Ironman call.

And the point about Superman, Ra’s al Ghul. I mean Ironman does not know who batman is; he has to be in his suit all the time – because as i said above caring a suit in his skeleton and program it voice active does not mean it could prevent a blow on time unless he is wolverine – So Batman could pretty much does everything he plan to Ironman while Ironman cant do anything. You cant shoot something you dont know. Ironman cant not find batman id through hacking or detective work cause- all the best brain in DC in detective and hacking had tried it – The only choice left for Ironman is ask some one. I only know 2 people: Superman and Ra’s al Ghul. Superman wont tell and Ra’s al Ghul is nearly an immortal with knowledge of magic and science at his command so i hope Ironman survive the encounter.

Posted by Shank on March 27th, 2012 at 6:57 pm

@John: Please please learn how to read carefully before you say anything.

Posted by Aaron/Nerd on March 27th, 2012 at 10:44 pm

@shank
I understand that the whole filtration thing is gross and pooping and peeing in a suit would be disgusting, but im pretty sure that Tony would wear the Iron Man suit half naked if his life were in danger. His life is more important to him than not having a perfect place to do his duty. Yes I understand how not having safe food would stress a mind, but Tony Stark isnt a normal person. As I said before, the Extremis Virus has a healing factor so the poison would do very good then. Also as I stated before, Tony Stark is an overly confident and cocky person. He is to cocky to beleive he is in danger, and having the Extremis Virus heal him after being poisoned would make him even more cocky and confident in his safety. Also if you read the very beginning of this this debate, the creator says “So, there is an Ironman movie and a Batman movie coming out at about the same this summer. Both movies will be fighting it out for the top spot this summer. THis got me thinking: who would win in a FIGHT between Batman and Ironman.” Let me say it again if you didnt catch it the first time: This is a debate on whether Batman or Iron Man would win is a fight, and poisoning someone isnt fighting them. I have produced multiple valid counterarguments against your poison theory, but the poison theory couldnt work in the first place because its not part of a fight.
Iron Man is only able to survive against the likes of robbers and terrorist because of his skills too… his skills just happen to be in creating advanced combat suits. Iron Man is still risking his life when hes out there fighting, and if you dont think so then he probably isnt risking his life when he is out fighting Batman either.
For my fourth point, the suit is advanced enough to make a plan. That was the purpose of me bringing it forward in the argument. The suit will record what Batman does when he is fighting him, and formulate counterattacks all by itsself. The suit does not give suggestions, it actually will create a counterattack and execute it without the need of Tony Stark controlling it. Read the Civil War Graphic Novel if you don’t beleive me. I agree with you that Captain America isn’t as trained as Batman, but it doesnt matter because the Suit will still record and analyze Batman’s attacks regardless.

Your lucky that we arent bringing in development, because then I would talk about about all the other Iron Man suits like his stealth suit or even the Hulkbuster suit so lets just keep the time period where it is… for your sake.
For the record the part of the suit that is stored in his bones is telepathically linked to his brain so he doesnt need to call out loud for it to come forth and protect him. There is a frame in the Invincible Iron Man graphic novel that shows Tony Stark calling on not just the part of the Iron Man suit that is within his bones but the entire suit all together in less that a second. Tony was in a penthouse suite that exploded into oblivion and was able to escape as Iron Man unscathed. The suit was on him as explosion flames where surrounding him yet he was still fine so his suit moves pretty quick. Also Batman would be fighting Iron Man, so there wouldnt really be this need for Tony to call upon his suit because he would already be in it.

Also Iron Man wouldnt need to find out who Batman is because the only way Batman would have any chance at beating him (which is zero I might add) he could only do it face to face, so once Iron Man has Batman in his sights its game over.

Your Friendly Neighborhood Nerd,
Aaron

Posted by Shank on March 28th, 2012 at 6:57 am

@Aaron:
Your argument is not clear. If ironman is cocky as you said he wont take enough precaution to input filtration for his suit. And like i said before the more proud and cocky a person is the more weak points he has. Poison works, even though not so well but to be torture mentally everyday is not a good thing for a person like Tony. Anyway as i said before a street fight is not a boxing match; it only consider the result; and after a full time torturing course i’m really doubt that Ironman could be the as sane again.

You dont understand my point. For example Einstein built an in-destructable tank and he drove it into a battlefield against foot soldiers; he did not need much courage did he, how much did he risk his life ? If a person does not use to the sense of dangerous then when dangerous comes he cant react fast enough. And if Tony as cocky as you said, I doubt he consider his life at risk.

Again; you dont see my point. The suit able to record Capt but Capt is not Batman, Capt only known a fews, and his only weapon is the shield. Batman way of fighting is capricious, and he has a a lot of strange tools. It is not for fun that DC Villains alway try to get batman utility belt. And the suit need to record first series of attack then develop the plan which could be already too late, or he change style, A.I is just A.I, their thinking is logic but not exactly practical. You dont get hit by the punch then think of a plan to dodge it, you need to think ahead in a fight, This is what Batman always the best at.

Uhm.. Shall we bring the Watch Towers ? which Batman design with all the weapon and shield ? i dont think you want it do you. And again he needs to know where the target is.

Now the suit even if it’s link to the brain; Tony needed to recognize the danger, the bomb, the fire, all are the danger he recognized – 1 frame of picture does not mean 1 sec ^_^ -. And as i have said over and over again; this is not a boxing match or a lucha wrestling match. There is no idiot that walk around with a bull eye on his back, Batman wont run of to Ironman in his suit, He could just come up in one of his disguises and slip the dagger through Ironman heart, the suit could protect him later but it’s already too late.

Posted by TopKing on March 28th, 2012 at 11:54 am

*Sigh* Ok, look you guys. This whole list of unnecessary poisons, filtration, food, and the such is horribly irrelevant. I can clearly see your emotions are getting the better of you, which brings me to my first point. Batman is a skilled detective, scientist (practically), martial artist, and like someone, though I can’t recall who, said it before, he has information on how to neutralize every JL member. Now for a fight, we aren’t considering whether this is in the DC Universe or the Marvel Universe, because we all should know here that depending on the Universe they’re fighting in, powers and abilities could decrease or increase. So for the sake of this fight, assume we’re in a free Amalgam Universe where the writers had no influence on the events that took place and we let the heroes fight freely. Now from here on out, just assume the position of a person analyzing statistics of a controlled variable. One uncontrolled variable here would be whether this is a fight between Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark, or Batman and Iron Man. If it is the former, Bruce has it in the bag. If it is the latter, Iron Man has a better chance, but it is now even. Iron Man’s strength increases in his suit, but remains feeble without the suit. Right there is a determining factor, but let’s assume that it’s just Iron Man versus Batman. By the way for all of you who said Iron has no real fighting experience, he does practive MMA a bit. So now, lets analyze Iron Man. His suit has all these wonderful technological advancements equipped to them plus the possibility of it being indestructible TO BATMAN (Hulk/Doomsaday would pulverise that tin can). Batman on the other hand is a man without fear (usually), he is always prepared, and he, for the most part, doesn’t let his emotions get the better of him. Iron Man, being is as cocky as he is, if he sees he is losing, he’ll start getting mad and fight sloppier and sloppier. Now a big problem Batman would have would be getting through that suit. It isn’t like he can just rip it open and pummel Iron Man to a bruised pulp. I, in what I’ve seen from Batman, will survive the first fight long enough to analyze Iron Man, escape, build something better that counteracts everything Iron Man has, and beat him. Both of these men have tech that can help them each study their opponent (not enemy since they’re both heroes) and learn their background, strengths, and weaknesses. Once they do this, this fight might end up being a long one given they will both be one-uping each other every single fight. Now after all the destruction has been wrought, in my own opinion, I believe if it came down to Batman fighting in his own version of a Hulk-Buster, and Iron fighting in his Hulk-Buster, Batman’s Martial Arts experience will overwhelm Iron Man. All he has to do is immobilize Iron Man’s limbs (tear them of the H-Buster) and the fight’s over. Or vice versa. Lastly, this isn’t a fight to the death, so rule that out.

Another point I would like to bring up, stop bringing up the whole “Batman beat Superman” argument. Superman is an overpowered boy-scout, which makes it easy for even Iron Man to take him down, mainly because boy scouts play by the rules. Even when Supes is mad, he still won’t kill you. In theMarvel Universe on the other hand, the only equivalent to Superman they have is Hulk (as far as main Marvel Universe characters go). I’m not sure if Iron Man beat Hulk before, but I doubt it. In my own opinion, I think Hulk can beat Superman. 1) because even if Hulk can’t breathe in space, he can still hold his breath for very extensive periods of time. 2) Doomsday didn’t beat btw Superman, Superman took HIM out and died in the process. But what I’m saying is, you don’t send in a Hulk knockoff to do the original’s job. If I remember correctly, Doomsday is a Hulk knockoff? Doomsday can adapt to his fight, but he doesn’t get stronger in a fight. One downside to this is the Hulk won’t get any smarter, but Doomsday will. So now you’ve got smarts against strength. Logic will tell you that, whatever you do with Hulk, you’ll make him mad anyway. If you keep dodging his attacks, you’ll frustrate the hell out of him. This is similar in a fight between normal people. You just want to bash your opponent, but if they keep dodging, you’ll get extremely frustrated. One upside to Hulk’s rage is that it seems as though they don’t tend to hinder his ability to fight proficiently. So now doomsday has to fight Hulk head on, or Hulk will just keep coming stronger and faster each time. Here’s some simple math. Hulk>Doomsday, Doomsday>Superman which implies that Hulk>Superman.

Posted by Shank on March 28th, 2012 at 1:33 pm

@Topking: actually i was trying to paint them the view of the fight. Because it’s like they think it is a boxing match between “Mike Tyson vs Muhammad Ali”. A match where Batman can pretty much do everything he like to ironman before he could think of suit up. I dont remember in war people match up at the position and say let’s start war; they’re sneaky moving troops, using trick, attack the supply.

And about doomsday; actually Doomsday can get stronger too. The alien created doomdays; had cloned him many times to gave him the strength to fight superman. If doomdays is designed to kill hulk the result will be the same, hulk will be killed.

Posted by Aaron/Nerd on March 28th, 2012 at 11:35 pm

@Shank
It doesnt matter if Tony is to cocky to put in the filtration system because it is there whether you like it or not. I didnt make it up, its a part of the suit. Talk to the creators of Iron Man if you think he is too cocky to put a bodily waste filtration system, but its there. As is said multiple times the poison would work because of the healing factor granted to Tony thanks to the Extremis Virus, and if he kept getting poisoned then he would just get food that isnt poisoned. As I have also said before, the poison theory wouldnt work for you anyway because that is not fighting someone, and poisoning someones food isnt fighting them. And dont you dare say that a street fight isnt a boxing match because thats all it is. If two guys got into a street fight, they will punch each other until one of them is knocked out, they arent going to go poison one of their foods and say they beat them in a fight. A fight between superheroes would be less primitive that a fight between two regular joes, but its a fight none the less. They will both play to their strengths, but it will still involve them being face to face.
Iron Man is a superhero which means that he risks his life everytime he puts his suit on. He risked his life when he made his first suit in order to escape captivity because if it didnt work, he was dead. He risked his life everytime he has had to fight extra terrestials because if he failed, he would be dead as well. So the knows the feeling of putting his life on the line. Even if Tony would consider he was out of danger when he was fighting Batman and did let his guard down (which wouldnt happen), it wouldnt matter because it would be pretty hard for Batman to harm him anyway.
I understand that Captain America is not Batman. If Captain America was Batman, then his name would be Batman. I understand that Batman has a different style of fighting than Captain America, but the suit would record Batman regardless. In the Captain America example, Iron Man didnt find footage of Cap on the internet or something, the suit recorded Cap from the times they encountered. It will do the same to Batman. Batman could change his style after Iron Man formalizes a plan to stop the first wave of attacks, and then the suit would do it all over again. And if someone gets hit in the face by a punch, of course they are going to think of a way to dodge the next punch because they dont want to get hit in the face again.
My explanation of the quickness of the suit is hard to understand so I don’t blame you for not seeing my point. If you are in a room that explodes, you are dead within the explosion basically as soon as it happens. My example is to show that the suit is so fast that it is able to protect Tony even as a bomb goes off in the same room as him… and he is able to recognize the danger and call upon his suit in the millisecond after the bomb goes off, and he succeeds in staying safe. That is how quick the response of the suit is. As for stabbing Tony Stark in the heart, 1. Batman wouldn’t do that because he doesn’t kill people 2. That’s not Batman fighting Iron Man is it? That’s disguised Bruce Wayne stabbing Tony Stark 3. Also a dagger can’t get through the Iron Man armor.

Your Friendly Neighborhood Nerd,
Aaron

Posted by Aaron/Nerd on March 28th, 2012 at 11:43 pm

@Topking

Batman would have time to escape to figure out a way to beat Iron Man because there wouldnt be a second fight… Batman would probably be dead.

I do agree with you that if it were Tony Stark vs Bruce Wayne, Bruce would have it in the bag. I also like to point out that Tony isnt actually as feeble as he looks. Because of the Extremis Virus, he is granted super human strength, speed, endurance, reflexes and the ability to project electricity and breathe fire. I just wanted to give Tony the props he deserves but nonetheless, I do beleive that Bruce Wayne would beat Tony Stark, since its Iron Man vs. Batman its a whole new ball game.

Your Friendly Neiborhood Nerd,
Aaron

Posted by Shank on March 29th, 2012 at 1:09 pm

@Aaron:
Sigh…. i had to say again. All fair in love and war. poison enemy food also fighting, psychology warfare also fighting. That is why said batman and any DC heroes alway have edge against Marvel Heroes due to element of surprise. Change the food does not mean it will stop the danger when you cant recognize your enemy.
Now about risking one life, he was already consider dead when he was captured, so he only had 1 choice do it or die. Not much of risking here. After that when he gets home now with the new suit i dont think much risking either. And yes i fought alien of course when facing high danger the risk is quite similar but. With the suit protect him he could withstand some attack, while Batman clearly wont be able to withstand any high weapon. He risk more than Ironman, if he made a mistake he is dead, while Ironman made a mistake nothing risky much; even if it could destroy the suit Ironman still be safe. The point is with the danger Bat faced his sense and reaction is much faster than Ironman was even with the virus.
Now about the suit. It need to record, then develop the plan. Batmans master most of fighting tech including from wonder woman, plus using various of tools and skills like magician – i mean escape and trick not magic -. Do you know how much variety style of fighting that Batman has ? And each plan developed to counter 1 style is weak against another style. If the suit keeps getting hit to recorded and develop a new plan, i dont think the suit would survive long.
The explosion. Actually no; the blast will kill you, force from the blast will break your bones then damage your organs, but as you said Tony store the suit in his bones so his bone pretty much ok therefore he could survive the blast does not mean he could suit up in less a sec. Again it’s a frame of picture, there is no info – truth info from writer – that ironman could suit up in less than a sec.
Guess you did not know, Batmans did kill, just 1 though. Bruce wayne is bat man just Tony stark is Ironman. Whether he using the suit or his disguises. The dagger is to attack when Tony not in his suit, as you said Tony is cocky.

p/s: kinda lazy lately so i wont reply for sometime.

Posted by john jack royal on March 30th, 2012 at 1:32 pm

This thread is getting ridiculess so I think its time we get back to basics.

FACT1 Iron man can kill bat man with one hit.

FACT2 Bat man isn’t fast enough to dodge iron man.

FACT3 If bat man has a suit that can beat iron man he would wear it.

FACT4 Iron man killed captain america.And captain america is stronger (can lift 800 pounds) and is at least as skilled in martial arts as bat man.

FACT5 Iron man was the director of S.H.I.E.L.D witch means he can think on a bigger scale than bat man.

FACT6 Iron man has iron will.He would stay in his suit as long as it takes(his suit is acctually pretty comfortable nowadays) if it means having an advantage over bat man.

FACT7 Nobody and i mean NOBODY can stay completly of the grid.Bat man has information leading back to bruce wayne and iron man would find it.

FACT8 Bat man is very unlikely to survive his first encounter with iron man (RE.facts 1&2) Magic tricks and ninja training aside.So he wont have a chance to use “phycological warfare”

FACT9 Iron man has trained with captain america.(before he killed him obviously)

FACT10 Iron man has withstood a nuclear bomb at 2 percent power.Nuff said.

Posted by TopKing on March 30th, 2012 at 6:49 pm

Ok, look. Batman has fought more powerful people than Iron Man. Even if he hasn’t fought Iron Man, something has led to Iron Man showing up and Batman analyzing all the statistics. Secondly, where did you find the facts for Cap? I don’t really see him lifting 800 pounds. Besides, Superman is much more stronger and I hate to stress the point I was just downsizing, but “Batman has beat Superman before.” So Batman is more than a match for Cap. Cap does know Judo and boxing, but read how many different styles of Martial Arts Batman knows (Note: Judo IS one of them). Marvel.com notes Caps strength to be at the “peak of human efficiency.” Note the word HUMAN, not SUPERhuman. Batman has, and I quote from dccomics.com itself that he has “pushed himself to the absolute pinnacle of human achievement. He’s a brilliant detective who’s mastered fighting techniques the world’s barely heard of. An Olympic-caliber athlete with a plan for every occasion, Batman’s seemingly always five steps ahead of his foes.” This will include the “Invincible Iron Man.” Once Batman has analyzed Iron Man before the fight, which seems very possible, he’ll create an Iron Man suit of his own and win. Sorry to sound bias, but it’s the facts that add up.

Posted by john jack royal on March 31st, 2012 at 5:05 pm

@topking your a fucking tard.”peak human” and “pinical of human achievement” are the same thing. even so Bat man is only as strong as someone his size can be, but cap is as strong as ANYONE human can be.I already trashed the super man argument earlyer but I gues you wernt paying attention.Even I could beat supes ass if i had kryptonite.I got the facts on cap at marvel comics database witch is a reliable source.
And despite all your blustering about how great a detective bat man is you STILL can’t give me one good reason why bat man survives the first fight.your argument is an example of what happens when you let emotions and fanboyism get in the way of logic.

Posted by jeff on April 4th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

You guys have to realize they cant switch armors all of a sudden. They both have to pick one armor. Also, is it first time encounter or before hand researched.
First time encounter: Batman will only have what he usually carries around. Batarang, grappling, etc… He wouldnt carry a EMP. Iron man would have repulsors, can fly, missiles, etc… Winner: Probably Iron Man
Beforehand: Batman would be completey prepared. Iron Man would be prepared but not as much as Batman.
Winner: Probably Batman
If its one on one no armor, bruce would win no problem.
It really depends on the situation, environment, what armor they are equipped with.
Its anyone’s game. Any superhero stands a chance against another. Except Aquaman :P

Posted by Jacob on April 4th, 2012 at 10:59 pm

@jeff well said, i mean except the part where batman could beat iron man with preparedness, batman still doesnt have a tool to penetrate iron mans armour, like i said, even when stark would be emp’d, hes not dumb enough to get out of his suit, if it was no suits, bruce could take stark any day

Posted by lol on April 5th, 2012 at 11:56 am

Jacob, Tony Stark still has a fucking chest canon. Batman favours enormously hand to hand combat.

The bat will get close and nuked in no time, stop the bullshit you are comparing a guy that wears in leather with a guy with the Marvel equivalent of the MJOLNIR Mark VI…with a chest canon for fucks sake.

Is like pitting Batman with an A-10 in an open field without cover and pretending Batman will win.

Posted by Jacob on April 5th, 2012 at 12:20 pm

@lol
Im voting for tony stark dumb ass, all you said was what ive been saying the whole time, read over it again

Posted by TopKing on April 5th, 2012 at 11:54 pm

@jeff
You’re funny man. As a side note, I’d like to say that Aquaman may be one of the most downsized heroes ever, but he isn’t actually much good out of the water. He’s just a strong guy without a little H2O. In fact, in my opinion, I think both him and Namor kinda suck. And also, you’re probably right about the encounter system. But I’m still weighing the possibilities for Batman as he’s able to dodge Iron Man’s blasts and Stark’s power isn’t unlimited.

But on a more related topic, let’s all stop arguing about this. No one is going to give up their side. People who love Iron Man/Batman aren’t backing down from either side. This could go on for 100 years, but no one will reach consensus. We would all have to put these two on some sort of Deadliest Warrior spin-off for superheroes in order to see who wins.

Posted by stark on April 13th, 2012 at 5:06 am

Ok first off. Every ironman arguement is wrong. Yall going with movie ironman vs movie batman. I know EVERYTHING there is to know about ironman. I’m a TRUE ironman fanboy. Ok ironman trained with all sorts of chinese fighting basically foreign fighting second of all emp doesn’t work 3rd of all. All batfag batman I mean sorry would read actual ironman comics and be like holy shet ironman is powerful oh and tony stark vs bruce tony still wins. Just because you know every fighting style doesn’t mean you’re good think about it. Tony vs bruce tony wins. Ironman vs batman. Its not even a fair fight I can honestly say that much. Ironman winner. Batfag batman sorry typo equals dead EVEN if it was a friendly fight. Sorry batman fanboys. You guys know your stuff and so do I. Batman has NOTHING on ironman or tony I’m sorry but the truth hurts doesn’t it.

Posted by stark on April 13th, 2012 at 5:16 am

Replying saying “this is where your wrong” cough cough topking. Yea its not working I’m 100 percent fuggin confident on what I’m saying read ALL of ironmans comics. Batman himself would be like oh man now that’s a playboy. Bruce himself would go gay JUST for tony. Hey I’m just saying simple facts here. Suit on suit batman has literally no chance “he killed superman he defeated ppl like ironman well I have news for you. He clearly hasn’t fought ironman himself now has he. You can throw anything at me bout batfag this batfag that and ill throw some stone cold facts. I’m sorry but its the cold truth. Even batman fanboys have to admit. Batman wouldn’t do a damn thing to ironman. Ironman is literally a walking death machine. End of arguement. Iron man wins.

Posted by Shank on April 13th, 2012 at 6:29 am

@stark: and that is why you are an ignorance idiot; in order to comment, you have to know both so shut your pie hole.

Posted by stark on April 13th, 2012 at 1:53 pm

And this is why ironman wins. Batman fanboys just like guys in tights. Frank castle wins batman I’m sorry shank but I know the tuth stings. So shank stop getting mad at the truth. And if you knew stuff about tony and ironman then why are you arguing. You think you know ironman? If you do then its settled you just basically said ironman wins. End of arguement here. Ironman wins. No real reason to argue to the truth sorry shank end of arguement. Have a good day.

Posted by Jabram Allen (@Disfactor) on April 14th, 2012 at 3:35 pm

It seems that out of this group of writers that I may have been the longest read bat fan since I read Batman at 12 and am now in my forties; the same would go for Iron man. I really like both characters and I tend not to baby either. Bat man has changed over the years and so has Iron man. However, in the real world there are only a hand full of people possessing photographic memory this ability actually beats outright intellect which requires memory as a main component; thus if Iron man also possesses this ability they would be intellectual equals. Neither would have an intellectual advantage over the other.

However in terms of experience, this is where Bat man would outstrip Iron man and quite easily if we are realistic about it. Stark no weapons training, no marital training not marital arts (real combat without a suit), very little physical training and poor over all physical conditioning. Wayne superb physical specimen possessing decades of martial training in bot weapons and hand to hand. Extreme psychological, emotional and physical training is able to perform feats only performed by esoteric masters: stopping his heart, lowering body temp, altering consciousness, has developed a resistance to most poisons common to man in various dosages, etc. No matter how Stark may train, he would never be able to catch up to Bruce in these areas. This also includes strategy and tactics in combat situations. In this areas Bruce is Tony’s superior without question.

In terms of fire power it may prove that both would be equal since both have had dealings with alien tech over the years and ancient gods. However, war also includes intrigue and once again in this Bruce possesses years of experience that Tony does not. Again, Bruce would win perhaps not easily — but he would win! Outside of technology, Bruce is Tony’s superior except in intellect, but intellect is not everything there is also hard work and again Bruce beats Tony in that area, so its possible that Bruce could defeat Tony in terms of technology through sheer effort. For those that want to use tech development in the movies as a means of judging both men’s intellect let me remind you that Bruce reverse engineered the visual sound wave device created by Lucius Fox and miniaturized it and did so long before the movie was over. In fact, Lucius was shocked and amazed and proud that Bruce had done so without his assistance. Yes he was appalled at Bruce’s use for it but, he was still proud of him due to recognizing the level of intellect required to do so, while working a case both physically and intellectually meaning that Bruce had to perform a great deal of multitasking.

What it would really come down to in terms of who would win in a battle between them would be based upon a first encounter or strike and if rather or not that first strike would be a killing one. In that case it could be either men. However, in a battle that occurred after a first strike where both are left alive and in tact it would become a super war that could destroy nations or at least there economies as well as friends and allies not just enemies. But in the end based upon the facts that I just mentioned I would have to go with Bruce not as a favorite, but based upon the facts that I just listed. You have to remember that Bruce is Batman whereas Tony and Iron man are not truly one and the same Iron man is just a suit — without it Stark is dead in the water when going up against Bruce on both a physical and intellectual level due to experience and training.

In terms of Bruce against Cap, Bane and Deathstroke if Bruce ever decided to up utilized the procedure that transformed Cap and Deathstroke in to super soldiers all bets would be off since Bruce would design a process that would incorporate the super soldier procedure with the procedure that Stark undergoes later in his history to upgrade his body to fully control the Iron man suit. I would hope that would one day be the case, but there would be many friends and foes that would shudder at night knowing that Bruce now [possesses that kind of power.

Posted by TopKing on April 16th, 2012 at 11:27 am

@JabramAllen
I cannot argue with a man with 28 years of experience in comics. So, I ask you this: Since you pretty much wrapped up this simple debate with sheer knowledge of both universes, tell us who would win between Hulk and Doomsday.

Posted by Jabram Allen (@Disfactor) on April 17th, 2012 at 2:37 am

Although it pains me to say it, Hulk would be defeated by Doomsday. Yes, according to both Marvel and DC comics the Hulk has never been able to defeat Superman. Throughout various crossover issues,Hulk has never been able to bend, dent or shatter the “The Man Of Steel”. A closer match match for the Hulk would be Solomon Grundy who is also unable to defeat Superman and like our beloved Hulk suffers from a lack of intelligence. Doomsday was originally created by alien scientist as a super soldier capable of destroying Superman level aliens and their civilizations.

Therefore, because of this creation background Hulk would be defeated by Doomsday quite easily. In fact, Superman himself was unable to defeat Doomsday and could only imprison the monster by leaving him at the edge of time by utilizing mother Box to do so. The only Marvel characters that would stand a chance against Superman would be Silver Surfer, Gladiator, possibly Thor and of course Dr. Strange due to magic being a major weakness for Supe’s. In short, Doomsday beats Superman, Superman beats Hulk! In terms of Hulks I prefer a emerald Goliath with brains and complete sentence structure.

Posted by TopKing on April 19th, 2012 at 3:39 pm

I always had that inkling in my gut that this would be the fight Hulk loses. Who do you think a good match for Spiderman be?

Posted by Iron Man Fan on May 5th, 2012 at 4:03 pm

Iron Man would totally win a fight beacause what would Batman do sneak up behind him with his stealth and then what, punch iron, and if he uses his grapple gun and ties Iron Man up then Iron Man could just burn it right off with the blast of his chest cannon and if Batman uses a Batarang it would bounce right of the iron and barely make a scratch and an explosive Batarang wouldnt do much damage either because Iron Man took a tank missle to the chest in Iron Man the movie and he just simply destroyed it with a tiny missle like 50 times smaller and he cant use his stupid, worthless electric tazer cuz Iron Man took Thors Thunder in the movie Marvels The Avengers and it only powered up his suit to maximum power capacity and therfore batmans weopons wouldnt do anything. If they were outside then Iron Man could just glide up and shoot him with heat sensing missles or repulser blasts or even the red lasers he used to stop all the Hammer Robots in Iron Man 2 or he could go down fight him (and batmans hits wouldnt do nothing to his iron) and then knock him out, carry him to the sky which he will soon freeze cuz of the atmosphere like in Iron Man 1 and drop him and he will fall to his death. And how is Batman smarter, he didnt even create his suit that other guy in The Dark Knight did the Morgan Freeman one because Batman couldnt take the rotwieler bite so he told him to make a new one and hes the one who creates his gadgets and stuff while Tony Stark enrolled to the MIT at age 15 and got two majors in physics and engineering was easy for him and took his fathers Stark Industries over at age 21. He created 16 Marks (Iron Man Suits) and created his first one in a cave with a bunch of scraps and destroyed the whole base and escaped. In Iron Man 2 he re discovered and created a new element. Hes so tough he managed to beat Obedieah in Iron Man 1 with his suit that wasnt even built for battle and had 44 percent energy left and Iron Monger was a much stronger Iron Man suit and he managed to outsmart him and take of his targeting system and in Iron Man 2 he dodged all of Whip Slashes slashes and easily took of his power. Unlike Batman who cant even stop a freaking clown with no powers or weopons just a simple gun and he got Rachel killed and created a new enemy which is Harvey Dent a.k.a Two Face. Iron Man is actually brave enough to reveal his idenity and make his STARK tower out in the middle of Manhattan in Marvels The Avengers and Bruce Wayne just lives in a cold, damp, crummy Bat Cave cuz hes to pussy to show his face. He even told Harvey to make up that hes Batman so no one would get all suspicious. And Tony Stark actually has a sense of humor while Batman is all serious and changes his voice to sound all manly. And how is Batman richer when he lives in a cave and Mansions arent even cool anymore and al he has is one butler and he dosent even get laid. While Iron man has Jarvis and robots and gets laid every once and a while and he has a house next to the coast in Iron Man 1 and 2 and he has his STARK tower in Marvels The Avengers that gets damaged and he rebuilds it again and has the technology to build 16 suits and all the weoponary on the with repulsers, missles, lasers, charge beams and even in his helmet he has a targeting system and it tells him info about his enemy and wow batman has batarangs,grappling hook,gas bombs and smoke and he cant even fly just glide of a building and a batcar while Iron Man had Ferraris,Corvettes,Lamborghinis and he even had a Bugatti at the end of Marvels The Avengers. In Marvel The Avengers he made Loki surrender just by showing him all his weopons, fought Thor and got him calm,saved the flying S.H.I.E.L.D thing, confronted Loki without his suit, flew into the mouth of that big flying alien in the trailer and blew up its intenstense, headed towards the aliens coming from the portal and blasted most of them and he even stopped the nuke from hitting manhattan by carring the nuke missle into space from the teleporter and destroying the whole alien base and came back down ALIVE. What did Batman do save a ship full of criminals and ran away at the end cuz hes a pussy. And Tony hacked into Hammer industries, S.H.I.E.L.D, and into a pilots jet to change the music and he has those light floating pictures at his house to let him move it around and create stuff with it and Batman just has a computer and Batman cant hack the Iron Man suit cuz of jarvis its unhackable. So Iron Man could easily find his Bat Cave. Therefore Iron Man is better and could win a battle against Batman.

Posted by dc4life on May 5th, 2012 at 5:30 pm

Dude, all you guys do realize that for one we are talking about Batman/ Bruce Wayne vs Ironman/Tony Stark
secondly they are basically the same people there is just a couple of differences. Batman/Bruce Wayne is a master in almost every kind of fighting style and studied more subjects than Ironman/Tony Stark, and like so many of you keep saying is at peak human ability. As for Stark with out a doubt we can assume that he is a better inventor seeing as how he was inventing things at a way earlier age, but lets not forget that Batman is set during a different time period even still Batman is still a genius inventor. Now lets not forget Stark isn’t at peak human ability and basically has an man made heart , not only that but Bruce is also very tactical. But with the suit Stark does have almost super strength. Now that that is all cleared up Stop bringing other heroes in the mix. FOR FUCK SAKE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IRONMAN VS BATMAN ONLY. All other heroes don’t matter at all. and to settle this little dispute they wouldn’t fight each other. Obviously since they are so smart the would both look up the other ones profile and find out that they both are good guys, and if they did fight for some odd reason it would start off as a tie then Ironman would start winning, seeing as how Batman is also skilled at escaping he would go to the bat-cave find a way to beat Stark and then come back only to barely beat him. END OF DEBATE YOU BIASED JACKASSES .

Posted by Iron Man Fan on May 5th, 2012 at 11:16 pm

To: dc4life
How would Batman manage to escape if Iron Mans suit could help him see through the smoke and could simply catch up to him since he can fly like super sonic speed and even if he did manage to escape how can he find a way to beat Iron Man. He cant cuz when he comes back Iron Man could just easily shoot him with his repulser blast or use his mini missles to lock on his open part of the mask and finish him off so therefore Iron Man could just easily do that the 1st round.

Posted by Mo on May 6th, 2012 at 5:51 am

to all those rooting for Ironman, I must inform them that Batman has everything Ironman has and more. If the need comes, he will pull out a stronger, lazer blast shooting suit that can go head to head with Ironman’s suit (examples: DC Universe Online Future Batman suit/The suit he used to defeat Superman in the comics). ANd I think its unanimous that Batman is the better hand-to-hand fighter between the two (I wonder if any “normal” human superhero is a better martial artist than the Bat). The only scenario where Ironman can win is if he was fully equipped against a normal Batsuit Bruce, but considering that Bruce Wayne is already the world’s greatest strategist (example: his contingency plans to destroy every member of the Justice League), that just won’t happen.

Posted by dc4life on May 6th, 2012 at 1:35 pm

To: iron man fan
dude lets not forget, like i said, Batman is set in a different time period. Not only that, i’m pretty sure seeing as how he the smartest man in the dc universe he most likely has a bunch of escape routes hidden all around Gotham. And if Ironman, for some weird reason, wanted to attack Gotham and he flew their he would be detected easily by Batman’s computer and i’m pretty sure that the Bat would get his suit that is basically the same as Ironmans. Now don’t get it twisted like i said he wouldn’t win easily. But i do understand what you are trying to say head to head ironman vs bat with the regular suit their is a higher chance that he may win, but lets not keep forgetting master at almost everything a person could ever want to learn. that means better fighter, better strategist, master at escaping (which to be honest i have barely ever seen the Bat to use smoke as an escape tactic) and way smarter. Oh yeah i almost forgot the Bat can use more of his brain than anybody on the planet and can comprehend better and quicker too. Ironman needs a computer to do that for him.

Posted by Iron Man Fan on May 6th, 2012 at 4:38 pm

To: Mo on and dc4life
Batman dosent have anything what Iron Man has. He dosent have the new element he created in Iron Man 2 nor the red lasers he has that cut through anything nor all the missles, beams, repulsers or the ability to fly. And Batmans hand to hand combat wouldnt do shit cus hes fighting IRON which he would just hurt his hand in the first punch and Bane has kicked his ass (yeah worlds greatest fighter my ass) and Iron Man has more suits too. He has the Hulkbuster suit used to defeat The Hulk and the Thorbuster suit used to defeat Thor and he even has the Stealthsuit that can turn invisible and cant be detected through the naked eye nor electronic devices so he could just suprise Batman and shoot him with the red laser. And his beaten Iron Monger and Whiplashes Iron suit and those suits are better than Batmans Iron suit so yeah that wont help at all. So Iron Man could get his Forcefield suit glide up and shoot Batman and Batman cant throw projectiles since he has the Forcefield suit so yeah Iron Man can stratigize too. And Tony didnt use a computer to build the iron man suit in the cave and the other guy just followed what Tony said he didnt come up with the idea and he got two majors in physics something ued to determine anything so yeah his computer tells him what he already knows like in Iron Man when he shouts “i know the math just do it” so yeah hes appearently just as smart and a better inventor since Morgan Freeman invents all of Batmans suits and gadgets. And all you guys say is hell beat him with strategy so tell me exactly which strategy would he use huh??

Posted by Iron Man Fan on May 6th, 2012 at 7:37 pm

Oh and by the way Iron Man can easily scan through Batman find out that hes Bruce Wayne and therefore use it against him cuz thats Batmans weakness and Tony dosent really have a weakness only Pepper Potts and alcohol is not his weakness cuz he abused cuz Stark Industries was going down but then he invented the Iron Man suit and just stopped and even if it was alcohol then what will Batman do, set it down and wait for Iron Man to come get it. And to all you people that say Batman can just sneak up in disguise and kill him, how would he do it. Tony Stark usually spends his time working in the Iron Man suit or working at his home and if Batman were to try and kill him the JARVIS would detect him. And Iron Man can just find Bruce Wayne, not Batman, and easily kill him and Bruce cant do anything cuz his identety, i mean thats how Hugo Strange captured him in Arkham City so yeah Iron Man has strategies too. And were talking about Face to Face fighting like Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat. Iron Man would surely woop his ass then.

Posted by dc4life on May 7th, 2012 at 3:41 am

To: iron man fan
Dude you are complete and utter idiot, shut the fuck up, read the comics, look at the shows, and then you can talk, you stupid little shit. AND WHAT THE FUCK DOES BANE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH BATMN VS IRONMAN, AND HOW THE HELL IS HIS REAL IDENTITY HIS WEAKNESS, IF ANYTHING HIS WEAKNESS IS THE FACT THAT HE DOESN’T KILL, AND HOW WOULD STARK KNOW BATMAN’S REAL NAME JUST BY ONE SCAN. WHEN YOU’RE DONE BEING A BIASED PIECE OF SHIT COME BACK THEN WE CAN CONTINUE THIS DEBATE TILL THEN FUCK OFF I’M IGNORING YOU.

Posted by dc4life on May 7th, 2012 at 3:45 am

AND FYI STARK HAS GOT HIS ASS KICKED MORE TIMES THAN BATMAN

Posted by dc4life on May 7th, 2012 at 3:49 am

OH AND BEFORE I FORGET, THE HULK IS UNBEATABLE YOU FAG SO HOW COULD HE BEAT HIM

Posted by Iron Man Fan on May 7th, 2012 at 8:49 pm

Wolverine kicked his ass you fuckin dumbass and so did Iron Man damn read your comics fucktard and yeah but batman isnt the worlds reatest fight if bane kicked his ass so did a fucking clown and mr. freeze poison ivy Penguin and other gay villians

Posted by Iron Man Fan on May 7th, 2012 at 8:54 pm

and its his weakness cuz he dosent eant any one to know it you dumb piece of worthless shit and yeah stay quiet that just proves i won the debate and iron man coul just shot his gay ass face and fucking destroy him and if he tries something else iron man would still kick his ass you dumbass and it is in the comics fucktard i bet your fuckig gonna go look it up or something you gay fagget

Posted by Batman Dies on May 9th, 2012 at 1:46 am

Far Range, Batman would die coz of Ironman’s missles.
Close Range: If Batman wants to get close to Ironman, Ironman just fly up the sky and drop Batman like a pie.

IRONMAN WINS… !!

Posted by Shank on May 10th, 2012 at 10:26 am

Lolz; so much Iron man fans here; and what all these idiots were talking about the stupid movies. Man… what a laughing stocks. These idiots think that as long as a nerd could get into a tank he could beat a Delta specialist.
An alcoholic without any fighting experience could beat the master of all by just get into a tin suit, yeah……… it’s a delusional dream of any lazy, half ass human out there.

I would love to know how tin man could find our who Batman is ? May be because they have a brain of a 5 years old – let’s face it a 8-10 years old would have basic science knowledge to know that it’s impossible – .

Posted by dc4life on May 17th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

To: iron man fan
did you get all F’s when you where or in school or did someone drop you on your head as a baby or maybe you are just simple stupid. Either way learn how to spell bro because after i read that i don’t even know why i’m arguing with you about this. It’s obvious something is wrong with your brain

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