Aliens vs Predator: A detailed analysis of who would win

Dude. your theory doesn’t hold. Arnold may have beaten the Predator in Predator 1, but Sigourney Weaver beat the Alien in Alien 1. So according to your logic, the only to find out the winner would be to have Arnold fight Sigourney Weaver. Now remember that Arnold was an Elite soldier in his movie while Sigourney was just running around screaming in her movie. I can bet you any amount of money that Arnold wins. Therefore the Predator wins.

The AVP movies had to make the Predators look weak. Otherwise, the movie would go like this:
- opening credits,
- five minutes in which the Predator kicks Alien ass,
- the closing credits.
They needed to have a “twist” for people to watch the movie. That’s why their stupid twist was to have the predator lose.

As for your Naked Predator theory, the Predator still wins . Predators are intelligent killers who plan their attack and then kill you. Alien are just mindless killers who run around in circles. The Predator would kill the Alien and then drink its acid blood and laugh.

‘Nuff Said

You’re just mad because you know that Arnold would kick Sigourney Weaver’s ass.
Here’s a quick detailed analysis:
- Without any weapons -> Arnold Woops ass!
- With weapons -> Arnold Woops ass!
- In the Jungle ( since this is where Predator 1 occurs ) -> Arnold Woops ass!
- In A Spaceship ( since this is where Alien 1 occurs ) -> Sigourney Weaver wins by cheating. She shoots Arnold out of the air lock.

My god, are you serious a naked pred… winning against an alien?

Aliens are the ultimate biological weapon, strength, speed, stealth and a whole lot of pointy edges, not to mention the deterent of acid blood. WTF are you expecting the Pred to do, pull out one of those cliche, “OMG I Twist your neck and you die now”s?

Now if you did anywhere near the research you say you did you would have come to the conclusion that aliens are NOT stupid and single-minded. Remember Giger’s alien? did it seem retarted and overly-agressive to you?, no it took it’s time, used the enviroment to its advantage and stalked it’s prey with the utmost effieciancy.

Also did you honestly expect a Predators cloak to make even the slightest difference on a creature that HAS NO EYES? It sees by pheremones, that crap only works on us. You also seem to forget the ultimate alien, the queen, she is the mind of any hive, she directs the drones however she sees fit, and she is INTELLIGENT as well as deadly.

One of the Cannon novels in the Alien series(EarthHive) states that the only Queen ever captured by Human hands in battle(a fight that destroyed most of an entire city) was IQ tested, what did they find? an IQ of 178.

Now a Pred, more so a veteran pred winning against small to medium sized groups of aliens I can live with, but to say one would kill HUNDREDS is pure folly and exaggeration.

Now for the Real fight Pred vs Queen, the winner is obviously the Queen, As I have previously mentioned she is SMART, she would know that to win she would have to close fast and hard where her overwhelming strength and natural melee weapons are at the advantage, I dont give a FUCK what kind of whacky space kung-foo a pred might know there is not a whisper of a prayer that he would be able to defeat a T-rex sized Alien in hand to hand combat(even with a spear or whatever else) The queen is the epitome of badassery, and it would take a PACK of preds to take her down.

Hell in ORIGINAL AVP Darkhorse comic(which I own, its bloody FANTASTIC btw, totally what any AVP movie should have been), The queen ends up fighting both the human hero character and the Eldest(most badass) Pred at the same time, the first AVP movie’s Scar and lead female were based on these darkhorse characters watered down as they may be.

What happened? The Queen destroyed him, it ended up giving him a mortal wound after taking afew blows itself and the only reason it died was because of the interferance of the Human female(Noriko in that comic/graphic novel). They set the Hive to blow and were to preparing to blast out with an escape pod when the queen stuck its head through the hatch to bite the already dieing predator a little more, Noriko shut the hatch and therby cut off the queens head.

And thats All I have to say for now, 248 to one my ass.

The predator hunts alone. Aliens hunt in packs. Aliens would win for sure, but predator would give one hell of a fight.

We seem to be forgetting simple fact based logic. The predator sees in heat vision. the aliens blood is molecular acid would the predator even be able to see it (forget the AVP crap) the alien is more reptilian were as the predator is way more humanoid who would win (in a fair fight without cheating with guns, one to one) human vs crocodile. the alien has an incredibly hard outer shell and is very strong it can jump, reproduce in the most efficient way possible and amazing natural weaponry. the predators think they are so kick ass with their plasma guns etc but have crap reflexes the moment the predator even touches their gun the alien would have jumped and ripped him to shreds or cocooned it. in short the aliens, in a real life battle, would kick the predators fat ass

hey! aliens are a bunch of freakin sissies who run around and WAIT for the predators to OWN THEM!!!!!! and for you up there who said that the cowboys are oafs, suck eggs! aliens are not killing machines, they are practice dummies for the predators!the alien queen is a wimp,she hides for the whole freakin movie. the predator in predator 1 threw off his plasma cannon to fight arnold in a fair fight with blades! arnold does NOT own the predator, the predator could have killed arnold anytime he wanted to.and in AVP,the only reason the alien beat those two predators is because he got one from behind, and the alien broke through the net because his blood is acid and it melted the net!

Wow you guys say aliens hunt in packs, but they really hunt alone. They protect the nest as a pack but when an alien is going to kill something he does it alone. And Chrisman, a stealth kill is a kill, no matter how you look at it. If you get killed by an alien through stealth god isnt going to call it unfair and send you back down the earth buddy. Your dead.

OMG ALL OF U PEOPLE DONT KNOW WHAT U ARE TALKING ABOUT.ita obvious the predator would win ok if a predator sees an alien the predator would blase it across the land with its plasma gun and about the avpr movie u guys are saying 1 alien took out a shipfull of predators ok take a look at the movie. There were ONLY 2 predators in that ship 1 died by the alien sneaking up on him which is gay because it wasnt 1 on 1 so it doesnt count and the other predator died BECAUSE the ship crashed and he got incapasitataded so the alien killed him. oh and in that ship DID U GUYS SEE WHAT THOSE PREDATORS HAD IN THAT SHIP HUH…………A QUENN ALIENS HEAD, LIKE 30 ALIENS HEADS AND A BUNCH OF THOSE LITTLE BABIES AS EXPERIMENTS LIKE THEY WERE NOTHING. and predators are differnt it always depends on the predator. they had different smarts 1 can be a stupid predator and 1 can be smarter. like in the first avp movie ino 1 alien killed two predators but look at what the 3rd one did. HEDESTROYED THE WHOLE FUCKING PYRAMID FULL OF ALIENS AND HOW THE FUCK DID THE QUENN SURVIVE THAT I JUST WANA SAY THAT WAS BULLSHIT. but if the predator had his gun he wouldove killed the quenn in 5 seconds literaly. 1 shot to the head ur dead. and remember those 4 predators against over a hundred aliens ( not even exagerating ) killed them all so its like this 100 aliens dead 4 predators dead think about that. PREDATORS POWN ALIENS nuff said

3 queen aliens vs a huge shipfull of predators in giant ship ( not like the little ass ship in the avpr movie i mean the one it departed from ) predators probably because it wont just be 2 preds in it like the movie it wud literaly be like 40

oh and one more thing
it says in the article the orignial alien was just killed by a girl… whereas arnie in his prime almost got destroyed by the original predator – and so obviously the predator is tougher
WRONG
the alien almost killed Ripley – one of the greatest, scratch that – the greatest heroine in all of sci fi – and she couldn’t even kill it. she had to blow it out of a freaking airlock and even then it was still alive and almost crawled into the engines – oh and when the got guns in Aliens (alien 2) guns couldn’t kill the freaking queen – she had to use a freaking power loader just to get it in the airlock – AND EVEN THEN the queen almost dragged ripley into space with it
and in alien 3 with no weapons they only just managed to kill ONE alien – Freaking lava didnt kill it! Lava

In predator 1 Arnie kills the predator with a log of wood
whoop-de-freaking-do

….Theres so much I can say right now…

and felix ur sayin that log of wood wouldnt kill an alien well it would. Your making the predator sound very weak and the reason lava didnt kill it is because it has a strong shell acid doest go through it and neither does lava but a predator freakin man handles them serously this gets me so upset the preds have a bunch of gear aliens are naked think about seriously think about this cuz aliens couldnt get to the pred cuz its got alien vision so it wud see it very quickly and shoot it

the reason why the aliens give a fight is so that u can have somthing to watch if it was reality the predator would kill the alien so fast it wouldnt even be a movie and stfu about my english dumbass have u ever heard of a mistake in typing im american i have an education i know how to freakin talk………people shorten their words in texts u know

Nickname aaron claimed that in avp 1 the predators sent to the pyramid were equivalent of “special forces predators”. That couldn’t be further from the truth. They were young, inexperienced Yautja taking part in a rite of passage ritual – coming of age to be more precise.

I think it’s fair to say both avp and avp 2 gave away a lot of logic and canonical information to the benefit of plot advancement. With common sense there would’ve been absolutely no way the predators had taken their fallen comrade to the ship without making a full-body scan after such tumultuous clash involving aliens. Just for example. But it was written – obviously – to set up the premise for the sequel. I just brought it up to raise attention to the diverse interpretations here, mostly due to mixed up and contradictory information between the movies and avp-/aliens-/predator literature.

Now, I can’t bring myself to remember of which books I read it was known that in some cases an experienced Elder could take on an alien even without any accompanying gear, weapons or armor. This alone seems to imply that your average “naked” predator would lose to an average alien drone. And it would only make sense, since the predator’s tactics and fighting techniques are based mostly on armed battle scenarios. Surely they are trained from young age with unarmed techniques as well but as the predator lacks any natural weapons that could severely inflict damage on an alien, the outcome of such a confrontation would eventually fall to the latter. Exceptions could occur but those kind of situations would require either beyond mediocre, or even unexceptional experience, and situational awareness on behalf of the predator – or conditions which would allow for beneficial improvisation tactics for the more intelligent species.

On the other hand we could always argue that a “neutral” fighting space usually percieved as an open ground would not be neutral in a sense that no predator would ever make such a mistake as to expose him-herself unarmed to “hard meat” on the open. Even if for some absurd whim or in the heat of a full-blown battle rage it should occur, the situation would be biased towards the alien; it having the speed to quickly engage and use it’s deadly evolution-given melee skills. But again, if we settle for more diverse of an environment, such as a jungle, it would be beneficial for both, as it would provide the element of stealth and surprise for both (yes, even without the predator’s cloaking device). In that case, however, the predator would be at least that bit harder of an opponent since the surroundings would provide the much needed obstacles and variable ground levels and thus more room for intelligent planning and improvisation.

A fully-armed predator with medium or even unsubstantial battle experience is able to take down multiple drones pretty much regardless of the environment (completely open ground wouldn’t give the aliens much advantage because of the variety of long-distance weapons available in predator’s arsenal).

A predator armed with melee weapons and helmet would be able to take down a small pack of aliens, given that it’s experienced. Likewise, a seasoned veteran hunter could take down even bigger packs, should the circumstances allow for some preparations. Notice, that unlike in the infamous Avp 1, a hunter preparing for xenohunt would VERY likely be wielding acid-proof weaponry and wearing acid-proof or -resistant armor. Actually, it would be a no-brainer to any predator, regardless of their age, experience or class. Only some hunt-specific rules (or exaggerated confidence and pride) would omit that.

A hunter veteran could take on an alien queen and even win IF the battle would start in surroundings giving the option of hit-and-run type of fight and with a decent initiative distance between the combatants. Like many xeno fans here have pointed out, the predator’s cloaking device would not bestow any significant gains in hiding or attempting a surprise attack but the pred would surely take that into account and make up for it in other ways.

Also, being able to smell pheromones doesn’t mean the alien is able to “see” it’s adversary in real-time nor in any precise ways similar to seeing. It would probably work in a way a dog’s scent does: it takes concentrated effort to track down prey and even then it can be distracted with mixed scents or pieces of worn attire emitting the hormones of it’s wearer. Considered, the predators are exremely well versed in every aspect of the alien biology and trained in multiple ways of confronting and defeating the aliens, the lack of any tecnical means of hiding or even ambushing should not be that difficult of a feat to a battle-hardened warrior Yautja. Thus, supported by the intelligent use of it’s surroundings, the predator would be able to slowly wear down the queen from a distant, maybe even dealing the deathblow with a medium- or close range melee weapon.

OK guys,
I’m finding it strange that nobody has mentioned the marines! With the new Alien vs Predator video game, they include space marines. I hear that the space marines get their spines ripped out of their bodies quite often. So, the question I have is: do the marines have a change against an alien or a predator?

I can’t believe people are – after all the different serious analysis here – STILL arguing on the bases of what happened or didn’t happen to Ripley and Dutch! Believing that any substantial conclusion can be drawn from this kind of kindergarten quality squabbling is embarassingly naive as in both cases there are too many situational variables and couldawhouldashouldas involved.

ok felix im not gona fight with u ok i dont like having enemies so i wud like to apologise if i insulted any of you.On the other hand felix , ripley and arnie have nothing to do with aliens fighting predators the only reason ripley and arnie survived is because it was a movie which needed a sequal.It would’ve been way to predictable if ripley and arnie died.

Predators are stronger than aliens,faster,smarter,and have weapons that are insanely advanced.Think of the aliens as a bunch of killer bugs vs an exterminater ( which would be the predator obviously )

but i also wont to add that predators have the uper hand and are deff superior to the aliens………… espashly the one from avp2 the wolf

Felix im sry to say that i storngly disagree with you. if you have evry seen the extras on avp the say that the had to beff up the alien just to have it evon close the the pred. look at it this way the alien is just a over grown ant

look im honoured to be talking to videogame nerds i love preadator am 11 suck at proof reading Dont mind my mistakes!) preadetor whole arsenal of hi tech stuff eg lazers blades spears INTERSTELLARSPACEFLIGHT super strenth ect ect ect so note all weapons from everywhere what awsome ass kickersdo the preadators not show cause they cant be stuffed eg stay in there ass woop giant ship in avp 1 and blast the hell out of aliens with plama shit and crap like preadators (i will call them preds cause i cant be f-cked saying long name) how come no pred have a ass woop extenda axe that starts off like mini throwing axe and then extends to 2 metre axe 2 hander an dismember people please aliens are not ants to preds they are nemisis 2 each otherthe 2 super races come on humans are still AWSOME i mean avp a bunch of nerds+old man with giant cancer shit vs aliens and preds result sick gun seen where the preds jump over the asses heads in camocrap while humans go pow bang boom pop with m4s and stuff result preds earn a whole lot of street cred

aliens ass woop acid blood giant teeth semi intelligent giant tail Huge queen face huggers chest bursters
so yep 1 scifi dream come on run up walls and kill from behind ect Yawn so predictable did i mention aliens evolve to enviroment cause of pred alien Supper ass woop dog alien faster less stealthy human alien well main alien like default or what

humans well if they send in army give them guns grenades vihcles airstrikes they will own capture preds and aliens with rhino trancs become interstellar buddys with preds and kill all alins in avp 2 pred woops aliens ass 1 pred 50 aliens end result dies fighting his friends alien pred thing and blows shittless with stalemate alien thing dead pred dying presses buttons on atomic fck whist thing boom the end plenty of room for siequal now why pred comes to earth to save humans why cause he is weeding out aliens so humans survive say aussies like me bring in black rats oops killing off natives so we try to kill out the fing stow aways now imagine we turn invisible have shitload of guns and actully care we kill rats yay and fck off preds hunt us though as well as aliens

the comment i cant be stuffed finding about if duchs crew vs alien alien kills em all in 5 mins with time for tea and crumpets is bull what happens alien kills half the marines then when they find it at last and blow shit out of it aliens are likedragons preds are saint georges humans are average andys snt george actully faces andys with dignity and pride with hounour while dragons steal there princesses pillige burn kill till snt george hunts them down and kills them getting off track ok

alien kills all crew then gets ass wooped in space
alien2 forget it cause i cant remember musnt have been good all i remember is bishop little girl power loader and qween
alien 3 kills prison gets killed riply finally dies and kills queen too
alien ressurection riply comes back boo hiss with queen genes are fcked up so alien inside riply has alien inside it now that albino skull head gets killed through tiny crack in window thank god it looks worse than the actual mithel jackson who has no balls pervert in fact i found this pic on web rolf alien is e.t pred is jackson
pred 1 pred kills all but 1 then dies pred 2 kills whole buntch then dies preds leave the pred killer alone since they respect him
alien vs pred aliens get blown up qween in bottom of ocean did it die? chick who survises gets pred hounor scar and cool spear
reqwirem all aliens die and theres heaps of them 1 pred dies hahahahahahaha

you all nerds

Firstly just gotta say a few years ago i prefered aliens and was a fanboy and yes they are fast and effective killing machines, but the predators would win and I know this is gonna piss of all the alien fans boys, they will start chatting ohhh gigers alien is an ultimate killing machine. But the predators hunt them for game if they wanted to wipe them out they could there ships are huge. Arguing that a naked pred wouldn’t stand a chance which isn’t really ture remember preds are also fast agile and extremley strong they could easily throw an alien like a good 5ft then follow it up with a stab to the face, anyway back to the point saying a pred is “nothing” without it’s wepons is stupid thats the reason they would there a more devolped and superior species making them better, kind of like us we are top of the food chain because of brains and wepons and face the facts a normal predator is smarter than a normal alien. As for the Queen it would kill the pred hand to hand

Ok I am a bigger fan of Predator, that a side I would have to say aliens would win.

Predator has all the technolgy that is the only reason they would win.
I mean the predator can kill a alien before it gets anywhere near the predator with either a spear,plasma gun or disc. How is a alien meant to win against this?

If you take away all the technolgy a predator has put him in a area with a few walls so he is able to jump around aswell. Then i would be a fair fight. The alien would be able to run around and hide etc the predator would be able to jump around aswell.
But they both have to come close to attack each other. At the end of that battle it would be hard to call who would win.
The alien is more of a attack and hide, attack and hide than the predator, were he is see the prey and run heroicly into battle and kill.

Conclusion.
Predator (with technolgy) v alien = Predator
Predator (without technolgy) v alien = fair fight
Predator (with technolgy) v alien(s(more than 10)) = alien (predator cool and all that but there no way he going to stand up to more than 10aliens at a time with that fair enviroment of equal walls for both predator and alien to use)

predators are bad ass beasts that can kick anybodies ass and the alien is just some retard with no logic with a tail

i saw that movie and it was kickass and was a very interesting group of humans they picked two black opps veterns a fbi most wanted criminal a yakuza member etc and the predators from that movie wud kick anybodies ass because i have never seen more powerful preds like thos and the preds even have these ugly look watch dogs that are like crazy and pretty hard to kill so the aliens wudnt stand a chance

and the predator movies were better than the alien movies

ur wrong a predator beats a predalien ok the predator has a gun all the predalien is is an alien with fangs and its stronger but do u think strenth madders when u get shot by a gun??

I’m thinking a predator would win. They just seem more advanced and forward thinking. I don’t think aliens are dumb (they’re smart too) but the predators seem smarter and more human. Strangely enough, it’s because they seem more human that makes me think they would win.

I mean, think about it. Humans aren’t as strong as lions or cougars or elephants, but because we have brains we can put them in cages or the circus and even treat them horribly. That’s the way I see the whole predator vs. alien thing. The alien (especially the alien queen) may be stronger, but this isn’t a question of strength- the point is, which specie could take down the other? I think if the predators come from a hunting culture with extremely advanced technology and loads of experience, they (with some effort) of course, could take down the aliens.

Ok, let me say that brutal… you sound like a predator fanboy. Felix, I see where you are getting at, but do not forget in AVP 1 and 2, one predator is killing most aliens (though said OP predator dies in the end). In AVP 2, the reason that alien killed off those two predators was due to the fact that one was killed by surprise and the other just sucked… I mean that it had a clear shot. But, I stray from my point. The other reason was that it was a predator alien which mixes the best of both of the creatures. It combined the speed and stealth of aliens and the power and honor of a predator. The predator in a fight against a regular alien(drone) would soon have an alien skull on its trophy wall. But, a specialized predator such as a queen or predalien qould prove a tougher challenge. Unless the predator is truely powerful, it’s ass would get kicked. So, I remain neutral in this so I’ll try to list most of each creatures strengths and weaknesses(plus I’ll include humans for laughs).

I forgot something important… the stats if a fight would happen. In the fight it will be a three-way, Predators, Aliens, and humans. A single predator armed with every weapon it has against a marine armed with…I don’t know… a smart gun maybe, and the aliens with numbers around 50. The fight will be at an open field. Surely, the marine won’t last long, so let’s exclude him from the fight. The aliens, of course, would attempt to ambush the predator. But, with it’s intelligence, that won’t happen. So, after the fighting, on chance the aliens mortally wound the predator, the predator still has the self-destruct Fuck Bomb on it’s wrist. So to my knowledge(Sorry alien fan…and the few marine ones out there) the predator would come out in victory, or will end it in a tie. So now, let me say……. Both AVP movies sucked ASS

In the movie Predators we learn that Predators also hunt in groups they always hunt in groups of 3. And Aliens are intelligent they killed a member of their own race because they needed his blood to escape through the metal bars. Besides Aliens are cold blooded so their body heat would be the same as their surroundings therefore the Predator wouldn’t even SEE the Alien until it was too late. So I respectfully disagree and say that there is no clear winner. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. The Alien needs to get close to the Predator which is a disadvantage because you don’t want to be near those things. And the Predator wouldn’t be able to see the Alien before it’s too late. Besides acid blood would suck to get on you so when it is that close to you and it gets all over you that’s going to hurt. I don’t doubt that it would be a great fight, I just feel that no one knows who the true winner would be.

ok so most facts here are true but all i wanna say is alien would win evertime if preds didnt have their (cheatin) guns and armor with it the preds will manage to kill but if aliens had guns and armor they would be as good as the preds so FACE IT preds only have armor cause they NEED it to kill an alien

Alien would murder a predator 1 on1. They are bigger stronger and more resilient to damage. predators are strong but have soft tissue and can be hurt easily. pred can only see alien using his sensors and cloaking device once his helmet comes off he is dead. Its like arming a strong warrior with a gun and sending him to hunt without the gun he has no chance he would be torn to pieces and the acid would finish him.

IMO without the fancy weapons the predator will lose against the Alien Queen. But at the same time, a predator without his weapon isn’t really called a predator. I mean a predator without his weapons is like a man without his penis or a car without its engine. The only time they take off their armor and weapons is when they want to make it a fair fight for their opponents. Taking off its armor and weapons while fighting Arnorld was to make it a fair fight. To take off their armor to fight the Alien Queen is kinda making it an unfair fight for the predator himself(since she is much bigger than the Predator). It will make a great campfire story but it’s stupid. But I do agree that the plasma caster is a hax weapon and with it, it could probably take down anything including the Alien Queen herself. So lets say the predator was full of himself that day and decided to put away his plasma caster(but he still keeps his other weapons, maybe he’s not too stupid after all) What will be the outcome? imo it depends on the predator’s skills. Just because it’s a Elder Predator doesn’t mean he will beat the Alien Queen. We have to look at other variables like the predator’s age and skills too. From the movies and the comics I think we can assume that the predators are quite organised(with clan leaders and different ranks) and I’m quite sure that different predators have different skills. Like some are leaders of a clan and some specialise in cleaning up messes(like wolf from AVPR). My guess is that there is a number of predators that specialise in killing xenomorphs and I’ll go so far as to say that there might be some predators that specialise in capturing the Alien Queen herself. In anyway I look at it Predators are very much like us humans. We all have different skills and talents. Probably some predator studies xenomorphs like how we humans study other life forms. In conclusion about Predators vs Alien Queen, it all depends on the predator. To those that says that Alien Queen is superior because of her size, just look at how humans have hunted animals bigger and stronger than we are even without guns(like cavemen, etc). And to those that says that the Alien Queen has high IQ, I would say that it is true, but is it high enough for the Queen to build her own weapons or gigantic spaceships that can travel across universes like the Predators can?

With regards to Jonny saying that he can assume some predators specialize in capturing the queens, i’m almost certain you’re right, it may have been a matter of “Jump from above, get some chains on, airlift her out then put her somewhere cold for later”. Am I right in saying that in one of the comics the Super Preds from Predators start capturing xenomorphs and using them as attack dogs?

In AVP 1, a alien and predator fought one on one, and even with all the predators gadgets and gizmos, it couldn’t kill the alien. It had to blow up the frickin temple! And the predator couldnt kill the queen, the predator had to get help from a human, and the predator STILL died. I don’t know about the predator fans’ oppinion, bit as I see it, the aliens win.

I think a clash between a Predator veteran and multiple Alien drones is more evenly-matched than a Predator versus lone Alien, because for all the Alien’s speed, agility, disguise, acid and tail-slamming move the Predator is a skilled warrior, it has heat vision that will not specifically locate an Alien, but once it realises there’s no heat coming from a part of the room while the rest if blossoming in heat it’ll catch on?

It has formidable strength and resilience, it absorbs damage pretty well and with its weaponry it can annihilate multiple Aliens…without its weapons however I think an Alien has a SLIGHT advantage, but even then the Predator can do well? Plus the Predator’s blood apparently is some acid-neutralising substance?

I think Predators dominate Aliens if they have environmental advantage, full-scale weaponry and are experienced, but an unarmed Predator would be overcome perhaps by an Alien…in the movies they adjust it always because the Predator always has to be humans’ allies against an overwhelming number of Aliens, so they always make the Predator kill a lot of Aliens which makes sense plus when Aliens kill the Predator it’s only because the plot needs expanding otherwise the Predators would be ending the movie in five minutes by killing every Alien.

And you all need to have some respect for each other? These debates are just opinions, they have no substance or truth in them, each opinion should be valued equally.

where in gods name did you get those stats? they are completly inacurate and miss out on the most importand advantages- the preds are (face it) WAY better than MOST aliens but the aliens numbers are what makes it equal
MY ideology on these stats:
strength aliens:7 predators:9
Speed aliens:10 predators:4
intellegence aliens:2 predators 10 (interstellar ships)
weapons aliens 4 predators 9
stealth aliens 9 predators 10
Raw Awesomness Aliens 100 Predators 100 (i will leave this as it is as it is an opinion)
numbers aliens 10 preadators 2
total:
preds 144
aliens 142

plus taxes and GST

For the stealth stats, the predator has some sort of field of view, so it can see aliens clearly. The predators also make themselfs undetectable from the visual spectrum, but since the aliens have no eyes, and see using sonar, or something, makes the predators stealth useless, so their stealth stats would both be 0.

Sorry, But by the way Conner John, you said that the stats where for one alien, so more aliens would multiply those stats, so that little post of yours says that alien win, 2+ on 1

got to agree with AorPbothwin. predator rule for sure because all alien look about the same but predator are not were masked on. all the masked look so unique and badass

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Sorry, But by the way Conner John, you said that the stats where for one alien, so more aliens would multiply those stats, so that little post of yours says that alien win, 2+ on 1

I disagree i meant as a whole But different aliens will have different stats (all preds are ROUGHLY the same with a few amazing preds)

For all the aliens numberrs thehy completly lack medium to long range weapons the whorst i have ever seen was in suckass aliens 4, where an alien shoots acid 2 feet just to blind someone while if the preds wanted to they could just nuke the planet

Excuse me, I forgot to mention that the alien’s acid blood will melt anything.

Know, I’ve taken the time to analilize battles and their winners.

An alien versus a slightly equipted predator is about a fifty-fifty chance.

An alien versus a fully eqiupt predator will result in the death of the alien.

An alien versus a predator with no weapons will result on a broken and dead predator.

A few aliens versus a fully equipted predator will be a fifty-fifty chance.

A queen alien versus a fully equipted predator will be a fifty-fifty chance.

A queen alien versu a slightly equipted predator will result in a dishonered predator.

A Predalien versus a fully equpited predator will be a sixty percent chance of victory for the predalien and a forty percent chance of victory for the predator.

A predalien versus a slightly equipted predator will result with a grusome death of the predator.

Ok, the one thing I have to bring up to liken this to the real world is this. Imagine a human… The ultimate hunter on our planet, because of our technology. Imagine a human with a gun against a Tiger. The human obviously has the advantage if they can get a shot off, other than that the tiger easily overpowers us and owns us. Without our guns, we have very little chance against a tiger, and even the least fearsome tiger would be difficult for even the most trained human hunter to bring down in melee. This I feel is equivalent to predator vs. alien, if a predator is not prepared for a one on one with an alien, the alien wins because it is naturally imbued with the characteristics of a perfect organism. If the predator has its weaponry, i still think that it would be hard pressed to destroy even a single alien, an alien has too great of dexterity to simply be put down with a single shot. Also think of us here on earth, trying to catch a cat or a dog running away from us, not too easy is it? because they have 4 legs, and possess far greater dexterity, and pound for pound strength, and maneuverability. If a cat or dog can run circles around us, then i think it would be the same in comparison for Aliens vs. predators, only the aliens are far more deadly than a cat or a dog.

If we define victory as one race taking over a world without destroying it then the following scenarios occur. Because the Predator is able to space travel and destroy entire worlds they have an advantage- but in a struggle for one terrestrial world the alien has a distinct advantage in almost every case.

Because:

1. Alien skin is impervious to most weaponry. In “Aliens” full machine guns were not enough to stop two aliens from infiltrating a blocked room. Predator weapons are far more advanced than human weapons- but it would still require a direct hit by the predator to cause fatal damage to an alien- which is very difficult considering their speed and agility.

2. Adaptability. Despite a more instinctual performance by the aliens than the predators, aliens are far more adaptable than predators. They blend in with their environments, can swim, jump and run faster than any creature known to humankind and adapt their strategy accordingly. In the first Alien- when there was only one alien it was slow and meticulous at taking care of its prey. The fact Ripley survived is more evidence of luck than skill. In Aliens the aliens are far more aggressive and change their tactics. They use vents and other passages most humans, and predators, would overlook. Aliens can breathe in any environment (seemingly not needing oxygen to survive). Finally, aliens adapt based on their host species weaknesses. Predaliens are specifically tuned to destroy predators. Human-aliens are specifically tuned to destroy humans.

3. Hive mind. Aliens work together in groups of more than a hundred on multiple occasions- all serving the queen. Predators rarely work together and only in small groups. Because of ridiculously fast breeding times and the ability for incredibly precise teamwork aliens have a significant advantage. They have the ability to learn from each others mistakes and adapt accordingly. The whole hive protects itself and works together without any individual dissension. This lack of dissension keeps emotion and personal needs out of it and allows for a self-sacrificial race of super-killing machines.

4. Acid blood. There is nothing the blood of an alien cannot burn through. If a group of aliens were to ambush a predator he would be hurting himself every time he hurt an alien. It’s unsustainable.

5. Numbers. Aliens breed at a breathtaking pace. Everyday the predators do not kill the queen her forces grow. Predators take years to develop and train soldiers.

In short- the comparison of an alien to a tiger and a human to a predator is invalid. Because aliens are impervious to most weapons of all kinds the predator would have to get a direct shot. Also, aliens rarely attack on their own. A pack of metal tigers attacking a severely well armed human would be a more fitting example. Unless the human can get 10 extremely lucky shots in a row he is ruined.

Predator’s nuclear wrist-watch is a catch all that allows them to win in any situation, however this would mean destroying the world and not resulting in a true victory. There is also decent evidence that aliens would learn quickly (due to the hive mind) and aim to destroy the watch with their acid before killing the predator.